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Abicion

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:40 am Post subject: Some sort of random Crysis 3 thread (with spoilers) |
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well it's a good thing I just bought Crysis: Legion
seeing as how Crysis 3 has completely removed it from canon.
god dammit Crytek. _________________ SOON.
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Taiyz

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:46 am Post subject: |
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If only they'd remove the comic books from the canon so Nomad could return and be awesome again. _________________

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Abicion

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:40 am Post subject: |
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christ I forgot about that. I'm enjoying how Crytek keeps building on their mythos and ups the ante with how threatening the aliens are in each game, but they really need to do something about their main character continuity.
The fate of Nomad (who is, gee I don't know, only the central character and the person we identify with for the entirety of the first game) is only explained in an obscure comic side story and not even alluded to in Crysis 2.
Alcatraz is retconned out of existence in Crysis 3, even after Prophet was specifically saying things like "YOU need to finish what I started" and "WE don't get to die just yet" in 2.
I predict Crysis 4 will invert canon entirely and reveal the character we've known as Prophet was actually somehow Aztec the entire time.
and who the **** is that 6th guy in the Raptor Team photo?
Between this and that Let's-turn-Raiden-back-into-a-robot-when-the-entire-MGS4-ending-dealt-with-why-he-deserved-to-be-human thing I was complaining about before, February 19th must have been reserved as Stupid Retcon Day or something. _________________ SOON.
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Taiyz

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:56 am Post subject: |
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The whole Prophet thing reminds me too much of Prototype. That series also had stupid developments with its protagonist in comic books, leading to replacing the character in the sequel, except in its case the original protagonist returned as the antagonist.
I really liked Nomad and I never liked Prophet, especially since he basically spends most of the first game **** with alien tech and you think he's dead. I mean sure he gives you an icicle-blasting gatling gun with infinite ammo, but then he has you escort-mission him outta there.
And yeah, the way Prophect "hijacks" Alcatraz and they forget about him is pretty **** stupid. I think what would've been cool is if they gave him two personalities. Like, Alcatraz still wouldn't be able to speak, but he could have a thinking voice. AI Prophet could talk to him and do the actual speaking for the both of them.
That's something I thought of during the two mission briefings where Andross-Prophet yells at you. But no, turns out that Prophet is basically the suit now and he takes control of you. Asshole. _________________

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Abicion

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:49 am Post subject: |
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dude.
| me on GF wrote: | | The fact Prophet is there at all really isn't the problem for me. They establish Prophet's consciousness was saved in the suit and acts like an AI at least temporarily. It's how the Crysis 2 ending obviously sets it up so it's Alcatraz figuratively becoming Prophet to rally mankind, or Alcatraz using Prophet's memories to live on in his place, or at least some sort of Prophetcatraz fusion thing. But, nope, the Crysis 3 ending randomly goes back on that idea and makes it seem like the entire trilogy has been Prophet's story. |
Stop assimilating my brain. It's creeping me out.
Also is it bad that I never actually finished the first game because I keep getting obliterated in that first battle with those Korean bootleg Nanosuit dudes? _________________ SOON.
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Taiyz

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Another thing I hate is how Crysis 2 tries to get you to empathize with Prophet; the whole YOU LIED TO US scene when, in the past, he figures out that Hargreave made the suits symbiotic.
But Prophet was basically acting as a double agent of sorts first, and totally ditched Nomad and crew for his own reasons. Getting "kidnapped' by the Ceph near the start was more convenient for him than anything, then he just goes nuts at the end and goes back to the island, and finally he's the reason that everybody went back there too and got Nomad and Helena killed.
Also I dislike how they retconned the aliens, too. Oh they feed on radiation/energy and create ice! No, they're actually more like squid (even though their biology seems to have more in common with jellyfish) that exude viral spores that melt humans, and then they harvest human tissue for sustenance, and they shoot lasers now.
I'm hoping it's just like, different species of Ceph from around the world. Jelly guys in America, ice guys in Korea, etc. Crysis 4 needs to ditch New York, ditch Prophet, and introduce a new conflict in another dome...Not that I know what the state of the world will be like after Crysis 3. _________________

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Abicion

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I don't know. I honestly thought the guys who wanted to make human smoothies out of everyone in New York made for creepier villains than the generic ice monsters. _________________ SOON.
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Taiyz

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I was just really bored fighting humanoid creatures. Crysis 2's aliens are the same aliens you find in games like Halo or Gears of War. They're just reskinned humans with funky weapons, and there are big dudes with power weapons and "vehicles" occasionally.
Crysis 2's "final boss fight" was a joke as well. _________________

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Jimbob the Shameful
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I have literally never seen anyone care about the plot in Crysis before this day |
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Taiyz

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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That's funny, because the entire reason I got into Crysis was because somebody told me that it had a worthwhile story/campaign beyond the graphical notoriety.
I really enjoyed the first game but it seems like Crytek can never stick with something and each game rewrites part of the plot before continuing. _________________

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Abicion

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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You heard it here first, folks. Jimbob will gladly buy a game that funds the next false flag conspiracy and gets Barack Obama elected for a third term as long as it has good gameplay. _________________ SOON.
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Jimbob the Shameful
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| You underestimate me. I even funded Grimoire, and its creator wrote a murder fanfic about me. |
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Abicion

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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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man look at all those clunky 16-bit menus. So much immersion. _________________ SOON.
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Jimbob the Shameful
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, that's a definite weak point. Hopefully the sequel will replace them with big cartoon pictures you can click on to decide which NPC to sodomise. |
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Abicion

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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You have something, Prophet... |
| Quote: | | ...Something the Ceph will never have or understand. |
Is he talking about Prophet's potential as a human being, or the Prophet x Psycho bromance?
Because it could really go either way in this game. _________________ SOON.
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