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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Calendar Redux Redux Reply with quote

A second attempt at my calendar, with 28 days in each month and every month starting on a monday:

January:
1 - new year's day
9 - balloon ascension day
14 - old new year's day (apparently a real holiday...)
25 - burns night

February:
1 - chinese new year
7 - setsubun (seasons' divide)
8 - start of spring
15 - lantern day
17 - valentine's day
28 - UK mothers' day

March:
2 - shrove tuesday
3 - ash wednesday
19 - st patrick's day

April:
9 - vernal equinox
19 - good friday
20 - dragon memorial day
21 - easter
22 - easter monday

May:
1 - may day
4 - starwars day
5 - revenge of the fifth

June:
21: fathers' day

July:
1 - start of summer
5 - summer solstice

August:
-nothing-

September:
-nothing-

October:
1 - start of national cupcake week
10 - talk like a pirate day
15 - start of autumn

November:
28 - halloween

December:
6 - bonfire night
26 - st andrew's day

Hendember:
19 - winter solstice

Pon Day

Rem Day (once every 4 years)

If anyone has any holidays to add, please post them below.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hendember?

Don't you mean Undecimber?

Originally, the year started in march:

March 1
April 2
May 3
June 4
July 5
August 6

September (septem = 7)
October (octo = Cool
November (novem = 9)
December (deci = 10)

Januari 11
Februari 12

Continuing from there,
Undecimber should've taken the place of Januari, with Duodecimber instead of Februari.

If you start the year in Januari and want 13 months a year, I'd recommend using Undecimber.

Where does Hendember come from?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Chinese new year would be on my birthday that's pretty cool~
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to compare it to the first since it was lost in time, but it looks like an improvement to me. Still a few issues with it though:

- Holidays are hugely bunched up at the beginning of the year. A lot of that is unavoidable and not your fault, but you could move some of the arbitrary ones (Mother's Day) to later in the year and introduce other arbitrary ones (Children's Day? Grandparents' Day? I dunno).

- I notice you have no Christmas. So are the solstices and equinoxes proper celebrations (instead of just a footnote on a calendar)? If so, you seem to be missing an equinox...

- There are a few redundancies here and there. It's probably not necessary to have both Setsubun and the start of spring— if this is a new, universal calendar I imagine they would be changed to the same day. It also seems redundant to have two days for Scottish celebration (Robbie Burns and St Andrew's), but I admit I'm ignorant of their relevance in the British Isles.

- Is "Dragon Memorial Day" just another name for St George's Day? I understand what you're going for with it, but with the other Asian holidays on the calendar, it just makes me think it's some Chinese celebration.

- A lot of your holidays fall on 'awkward' days. Valentine's is in the middle of the week, Burns Night on a Thursday, Vernal Equinox on a Tuesday, etc. In the interest of the people, you might want to jiggle these around to have them fall on Mondays or Fridays (for the long weekends).

- Another thing you could do is 'pin' certain holidays to the 'old date' to increase space between holidays. For instance, Hallowe'en could be kept as the last day in October to have more time between it and Bonfire Night.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slivius wrote:
Hendember?

Apparently "hen" is another prefix meaning 1 and "dem" is an abbreviation of "decem". It was not my idea but it beats "Smarch"...

Shiv:) wrote:
The Chinese new year would be on my birthday that's pretty cool~

Probably not. Chances are your birthday has moved.

Conn wrote:
Holidays are hugely bunched up at the beginning of the year. A lot of that is unavoidable and not your fault, but you could move some of the arbitrary ones (Mother's Day) to later in the year and introduce other arbitrary ones (Children's Day? Grandparents' Day? I dunno).

I am very much aware of this issue but I do not like the idea of moving Mothers' Day and have long since forgotten when those other arbitrary things (and american mothers' day for that matter) were supposed to go.

Conn wrote:
I notice you have no Christmas. So are the solstices and equinoxes proper celebrations (instead of just a footnote on a calendar)? If so, you seem to be missing an equinox....

Yeah, stuff is a bit weird there. I put a lot of thought into where to place christmas last time and have not had the time to do so again. I kinda forgot to put the note about that in the first post.
Solstices have always held more meaning for me than for anyone else but this change of calendar would not change the function of any holidays.

Conn wrote:
It's probably not necessary to have both Setsubun and the start of spring— if this is a new, universal calendar I imagine they would be changed to the same day.

Setsubun is defined as the holiday marking the end of winter and, from what I recall, the start of spring is the day after, even in japan.

Conn wrote:
It also seems redundant to have two days for Scottish celebration (Robbie Burns and St Andrew's)

I will admit I have no idea what St. Andrew's day is about but it seems odd to think that 2 holidays is too much for one country.

Conn wrote:
Is "Dragon Memorial Day" just another name for St George's Day? I understand what you're going for with it, but with the other Asian holidays on the calendar, it just makes me think it's some Chinese celebration..

Yes. I have never cared much for the celebration of a saint known only for the murder of defenceless animals who's actions weren't really their own fault to begin with. I will admit, this is probably not the version of the story you are familiar with but I always pittied the dragon.

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Valentine's is in the middle of the week

I honestly believed that would be a plus. People like to share stories afterwards and excitement before hand so wednesday seemed like the best day for it.

Conn wrote:
Burns Night on a Thursday

*shrugs* It's not my fault Burns was born on an awkward day.

Conn wrote:
Vernal Equinox on a Tuesday

Likewise, one cannot move the stars and planets.

Conn wrote:
Another thing you could do is 'pin' certain holidays to the 'old date' to increase space between holidays. For instance, Hallowe'en could be kept as the last day in October to have more time between it and Bonfire Night.

That's a possibility but then november is empty.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryuuka of the 7th Flame wrote:
I do not like the idea of moving Mothers' Day and have long since forgotten when those other arbitrary things (and american mothers' day for that matter) were supposed to go.

Why don't you like moving Mother's Day?

North American Mother's Day is the second Sunday of May, but the fact that it's arbitrary means you can put it (and other similar holidays) wherever you want. That's why I suggested moving it, because you actually have that ability, unlike eg Valentine's Day.

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I will admit I have no idea what St. Andrew's day is about but it seems odd to think that 2 holidays is too much for one country.

Well, it's too much when England and Ireland have one and Wales has none (poor Wales).

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I honestly believed [Valentine's on a Wednesday] would be a plus. People like to share stories afterwards and excitement before hand so wednesday seemed like the best day for it.

Fair enough.

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*shrugs* It's not my fault Burns was born on an awkward day. [...] Likewise, one cannot move the stars and planets.

The Queen's Birthday is not the same day as her actual birthday; I see no reason this couldn't be repeated here.

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That's a possibility but then november is empty.

You've already got two empty months >_>
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conn wrote:
Why don't you like moving Mother's Day?

I have no idea. I'll consider it.

Conn wrote:
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it seems odd to think that 2 holidays is too much for one country.

Well, it's too much when England and Ireland have one and Wales has none (poor Wales).

Ok, valid point.

Conn wrote:
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*shrugs* It's not my fault Burns was born on an awkward day. [...] Likewise, one cannot move the stars and planets.

The Queen's Birthday is not the same day as her actual birthday; I see no reason this couldn't be repeated here.

Just because the queen has 4 birthdays doesn't mean it's right.

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That's a possibility but then november is empty.

You've already got two empty months >_>

I know. It's not good.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't see international talk like a pirate day
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryuuka of the 7th Flame wrote:
Just because the queen has 4 birthdays doesn't mean it's right.

The point is that there's precedent for holidays being celebrated at more convient times, so I don't see why it couldn't work here as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GentlemanlyRuin wrote:
i don't see international talk like a pirate day

THANKYOU!
I knew I was missing something other than christmas.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When is this marvelous day normally? :0
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

19th of september, the birthday of the ex wife of "Cap'n Chumbucket", the inventor of the holiday.
It has been shifted to the 10th of october due to the calendar change but this is actually the same day numerically.
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