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perbearman
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 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:14 am Post subject: Confused about Exsphere! |
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| I'm not exactly sure how exspheres are made. My theory is that exspheres are dormant and have no special powers when they were originally put on people at the ranches. Then for example is the process to create a Cruxis Crystal goes haywire or the exsphere is removed the host turns into a monster just like Anna and Marble. If the monster is killed they are entrapped inside the cruxis crystal. We know this from Marble. So when Anna escaped from the human ranch with Kratos was her exsphere dormant and only when it was removed she became a monster or was her exsphere actually made from a human's life? |
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Kureejii Lea
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Well, it's not really a theory as the game does pretty much explain it all.
Exspheres are mined and are at that stage dormant. They are placed upon human hosts without a key crest in order for them to feed on that host and be cultivated into a usable state, after which point they can be used to power machines or enhance a person's innate abilities (but it still needs to be used with a key crest to prevent further parasitic activity).
The people at the ranches aren't given key crests (because that would prevent the cultivation); if a keycrest is used later it can be controlled, but if the exsphere is removed without the use of a key crest, the mana in the subject's body goes out of control and they change into an Exbelua.
Anna's exsphere was was cultivated with her as the host body, but it was unique in that even after being removed from a host or while used with a key crest, it continually got stronger. She turned into a monster because the exsphere was removed and it didn't have a key crest.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| Ok thanks that explains alot. So how where did the dormant exspheres come from and how did they end up being mined. Also when Llord and co are at Kvar's ranch and they realize how exspheres get their power why where those people on conveyor belts and what were in those boxes coming out? Did those people die right there? |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So how where did the dormant exspheres come from and how did they end up being mined. |
As I see it: They're just there. Developed over centuries just like any other ore, mineral etc. They are just like some anorganic parasite and when they were discovered they were used how they are used in the game: To strenghten people and power machines etc. They're very useful, yet dangerous.
Becoming an angel is - in my opinion - nothing else than a controlled parasitic disease by the Exsphere.
| Quote: | | Also when Llord and co are at Kvar's ranch and they realize how exspheres get their power why where those people on conveyor belts and what were in those boxes coming out? Did those people die right there? |
The people were probably killed and the Exspheres removed. After all it would be inefficient and dangerous to let every prisoner turn into a monster - so just kill them before removing the Exsphere.
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| Soryu wrote: | | The people were probably killed and the Exspheres removed. After all it would be inefficient and dangerous to let every prisoner turn into a monster - so just kill them before removing the Exsphere. |
Nope. It is implied that they are already dead at this point. After all, would it not also be inefficient to remove the exspheres before they had finished sapping the life force of the victim?
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| ryuu seika wrote: | | Nope. It is implied that they are already dead at this point. After all, would it not also be inefficient to remove the exspheres before they had finished sapping the life force of the victim? |
They're stood up as they go into the machine... The subjects die at some point and that part of the exsphere manufacturing process is probably it. I don't think they're dead before it, I don't know how what part of the game "implied" what you're thinking of.
Obviously being that this is a Tales game it's not going to be detailed how the exspheres are produced. We can only speculate. My view on the matter?
A human goes into the machine, an exsphere comes out.
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Yume Hanabi
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| Lewnatic wrote: | | A human go into the machine, an exsphere comes out. |
Though I don't agree that it's not detailed because it's a Tales game. Other Tales have pretty detailed explanations about their technologies (take Abyss, for example).
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Abyss' explanation isn't mature, neither is the actual process of creating replicas (assuming that's what you're talking about).
The whole exsphere creation process, to me, sounds like it would be very painful and if people actually die in the end I can't picture it being a peaceful death.
I mean can you honestly picture Kratos explaining the process within the machine? I'm sure it would be lovely to hear and very educational but I just can't see it in a Tales game.
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lukethebloody
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:08 am Post subject: yes |
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| the inhibitor or dosent completly get rid of exsphere afect just slows them down |
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Ryuuka of the 7th Flame
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| lukethebloody wrote: | | the inhibitor or dosent completly get rid of exsphere afect just slows them down |
I thought inhibitor ore did get rid of the effect but Presea's non-inhibitor ore key crest just slowed the process.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:21 am Post subject: so |
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| it depends on what its made of then |
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