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Ryu Tienousha



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xemnas wrote:
silver forte wrote:
Really, I don't care if this is localized or not, The extras are nice, but not mind blowing or anything. And I am just sick of waiting for announcements and such. I'm just gonna stick with the 360 version, which has plenty of content already.


The general consesus has been almost opposite..everytime my friend tries to play his copy he turns it off immediately...

I personally think there was a good amount of extras..almost 4 extra sets of costumes, new artes, cameo artes, mystic artes...the Arena pwns...a ****** of new bosses, new characters (some only wanted flynn though lol). Calling it simply extras just feels wrong..i can't even say they just completed the game because in addition to adding what was scrapped they expanded.


Well I just wanted to play it on a more stable system... But I do love the extras, I'm kicking ass with Flynn and both him and Patty are almost never out of my party. And the Garden of Izayoi is a NICE change from the lackluster EX Dungeons they've used since Eternia
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to play the game. I can't do anything if it's not localized, but it would be really nice if it was.

Ryu Tienousha wrote:
Judgment100 wrote:
I'm considering getting a book to at least learn romaji. Anyone have suggestions?

Also, I'm waiting till April for the Vesperia announcement. If it doesn't come out by then, I'm washing my hands of it.


Romanji is writing the Japanese words in the English alphabet, what's tricky is converting sentence structure. Since I really only write Skill names I tend to leave them as one word unless they use 'no' as part of the name and then space it like Shisna no Mezame. And I use a hyphen with ones like Majinken-Souga that has a division represented by a large dot.


I know what romaji is, but I only recognize a few dozen words from watching anime/games. I was interested in increasing my vocabulary more.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Judgment: You could always get a Japanese=English/English=Japanese dictionary.

As long as we're asking for help on the Japanese language here, who can steer me in the right direction on improving my terrible Japanese grammar? I mean, I know it's Subject-Object-Verb and all, but once it gets to sentences with more than one verb, and the placements of the は, が、 and を I sometimes get lost in all that. Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you learning alone or do you have a teacher?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yume Hanabi wrote:
Are you learning alone or do you have a teacher?


Well, honestly I'm learning alone. And where I live, I can't find a Japanese tutor/class/teacher anywhere. Using Kanji, alphabets, decent vocabulary, I have those.. but good grammar I do not lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sucks...my school offers Japanese but very limited...doesn't blend well with the rest of my schedule.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilroy wrote:
@Judgment: You could always get a Japanese=English/English=Japanese dictionary.

As long as we're asking for help on the Japanese language here, who can steer me in the right direction on improving my terrible Japanese grammar? I mean, I know it's Subject-Object-Verb and all, but once it gets to sentences with more than one verb, and the placements of the は, が、 and を I sometimes get lost in all that. Any suggestions?

Best recommendation is to find a book that teaches Japanese. Also, I do recommend legally purchasing Rosetta Stone.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhau wrote:
Kilroy wrote:
@Judgment: You could always get a Japanese=English/English=Japanese dictionary.

As long as we're asking for help on the Japanese language here, who can steer me in the right direction on improving my terrible Japanese grammar? I mean, I know it's Subject-Object-Verb and all, but once it gets to sentences with more than one verb, and the placements of the は, が、 and を I sometimes get lost in all that. Any suggestions?

Best recommendation is to find a book that teaches Japanese. Also, I do recommend legally purchasing Rosetta Stone.


Dude, it's 500+$ for the whole thing, that's insane!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's my birthday today and unfortunatley PS3 Vesperia didn't arrive so I'll have to wait a while longer to play it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judgment100 wrote:
I know what romaji is, but I only recognize a few dozen words from watching anime/games. I was interested in increasing my vocabulary more.
Even still, I must tell you that you cannot learn Japanese by using romaji as a base. Don't even try, sever all your ties with the english language in learning it. Trying to form phrases derived from english phrases or even single words is a terrible idea and will get you nowhere very quickly. Even if you do manage to succeed in this method, mentally translating anything will prove to be a pain as you're thinking in english and screwing around with the words, grammar and structure, instead of just thinking in japanese. Learn japanese, using japanese.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exhau wrote:

Best recommendation is to find a book that teaches Japanese. Also, I do recommend legally purchasing Rosetta Stone.


Honestly, I didn't know there was a way to obtain Rosetta Stone without legally purchasing it lol.

As for a Japanese book, most of the ones I seem to find are just awful. I was thinking of buying a textbook, one that a school uses, to see if that would help.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drake Irving wrote:
Judgment100 wrote:
I know what romaji is, but I only recognize a few dozen words from watching anime/games. I was interested in increasing my vocabulary more.
Even still, I must tell you that you cannot learn Japanese by using romaji as a base. Don't even try, sever all your ties with the english language in learning it. Trying to form phrases derived from english phrases or even single words is a terrible idea and will get you nowhere very quickly. Even if you do manage to succeed in this method, mentally translating anything will prove to be a pain as you're thinking in english and screwing around with the words, grammar and structure, instead of just thinking in japanese. Learn japanese, using japanese.


...I know. I still need to boost my vocabulary.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://jisho.org/

Does that help?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l77/anise-tatlin/Vesperia/11-08-09_1047.jpg
Not sure if you guys can tell but that monster is petrified. What happened? Estelle charmed thrusted a monster that has a petrification attack and it petrified another monster. I couldn't do anything about it. The monster cannot be damaged, removed, or cured of it's ailment so the battle never ended. Fortunatley I was able to run away but had to start over on that floor of the Telescopic Graveyard. @.@
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty awesome!

Don't worry, I can clearly see that this monster is petrified.
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