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Isaac232

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 208 Location: Somewhere where animals rule and humans aren't around...
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Low sales? How could that be?
Man, I really want ToDR in English. I can't pay for all things that make me able to play the japanese game. _________________

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*Chill*

Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 64 Location: noitacol
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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I don't know if this has been mentioned already or not but Tales of Fandom Vol.2 is work in progress... from what i've read, the commercial for it is going to be on TV (japan) from the 23rd of August...
It seems that it'll only be out in Japan at the moment on the play station 2.
I DON'T HAVE ONE!!! DARN!!!
One way or another, it looks fun with new costumes... ( I mean Kratos in a doctors costume and collete in a nurse's...? XD)
here's the link to the site: http://namco-ch.net/talesoffandom2/product/index.php _________________
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Cloud

Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 17482
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| *Chill* wrote: | | I don't know if this has been mentioned already or not but Tales of Fandom Vol.2 is work in progress... from what i've read, the commercial for it is going to be on TV (japan) from the 23rd of August... |
No, actually, the game is already out. _________________
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tairukun

Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 114 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:34 am Post subject: |
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why oh why cant tales be as popular as final fantasy? that way we'd have all titles instead of spending extra money on importing. god i hate this. finally find an rpg i love and i have to go through complicated stuff just ot play them _________________ http://cd-chemical-fox.deviantart.com/art/OH-NOOOOES-MAPLE-STORY-53472317 |
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JToTheP

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 210 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| tairukun wrote: | | why oh why cant tales be as popular as final fantasy? that way we'd have all titles instead of spending extra money on importing. god i hate this. finally find an rpg i love and i have to go through complicated stuff just ot play them |
Yeah...that's an interesting question, isn't it? Of course the better series gets the shaft when it comes to the US. We're lucky the US loved TOS, or we wouldn't even be seeing the Wii Sequel/Spin-Off.
Hell, even the Tales game Japan thinks is worst, is probably a lot better then the newer Final Fantasies anyway. I myself am glad to have FF 1-6 on GBA/DS, I only like 8 & 9 out of the newer ones. _________________
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Zacewing

Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 15329 Location: WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM!?
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| tairukun wrote: | | why oh why cant tales be as popular as final fantasy? that way we'd have all titles instead of spending extra money on importing. god i hate this. finally find an rpg i love and i have to go through complicated stuff just ot play them |
Cause Americans are ignorant losers and wouldn't know a good RPG if it slapped them in the face.
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Kaizakira
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 2121
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Ruca Milda wrote: | | Cause Americans are ignorant losers and wouldn't know a good RPG if it slapped them in the face. |
Ahem...Some people here are American >_>
Anyway tales isn't as popular as Final Fantasy because people are not as familiar with Tales as much as Final Fantasy. And just to say I don't think Tales should be as popular as Final Fantasy because Rpg series popular like final fantasy tend to get boring and end up on having countless and pointless ports/remakes(example ff and ff2 psp port) |
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Mr Blobby
Joined: 08 Dec 2004 Posts: 18060
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Ruca Milda wrote: | | tairukun wrote: | | why oh why cant tales be as popular as final fantasy? that way we'd have all titles instead of spending extra money on importing. god i hate this. finally find an rpg i love and i have to go through complicated stuff just ot play them |
Cause Americans are ignorant losers and wouldn't know a good RPG if it slapped them in the face. |
Most of them are.
Just like most people in every country on the planet. |
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RyuHiroshi

Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 2227 Location: Liberlian Barrel
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Swordian Leon Magnus wrote: | | And just to say I don't think Tales should be as popular as Final Fantasy because Rpg series popular like final fantasy tend to get boring and end up on having countless and pointless ports/remakes(example ff and ff2 psp port) |
Don't worry, Namco already does a lot of ports and remakes, even though they're not as popular as FF is.  _________________
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Ryuuko Moderator

Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 25565 Location: Buffalo
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| RyuHiroshi wrote: | | Swordian Leon Magnus wrote: | | And just to say I don't think Tales should be as popular as Final Fantasy because Rpg series popular like final fantasy tend to get boring and end up on having countless and pointless ports/remakes(example ff and ff2 psp port) |
Don't worry, Namco already does a lot of ports and remakes, even though they're not as popular as FF is.  |
Actually though, Tales is more popular than FF in Japan... or so I hear. It makes sense as to why they are porting/remaking/making new ones for Japan. _________________
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throughhim413

Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 327 Location: United States
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Ryuuko wrote: | | Actually though, Tales is more popular than FF in Japan... or so I hear. It makes sense as to why they are porting/remaking/making new ones for Japan. | My goodness, I don't know where you heard that fact, but even being here for half a year I can tell you that's not correct. Final Fantasy IV DS and Dragon Quest IV DS? Still selling very well. Tales of Innocence? You can find it on the used racks. There's plenty of fans and it's a popular series, don't get me wrong. In terms of merchandise, they probably outdo the FF and DQ series, but in terms of game sales? No way. Japan loves Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest. Although I myself much prefer the Tales series, Japan does not. I've talked to all sorts of people here about games. Mentioning the Tales series was met with blank stares, but you ask about FF or DQ and you see faces light up. _________________
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AlliedG

Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 266 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Its because Namco doesn't give enough money to there namco tales studio. I sound sarcastic but seriously if they put as much money into the tales games, as you see Tekken, Ace Combat, then you might actually see Tales of games become popular.
At least in US you got Abyss, in EU we got TOTA: RM which no-one knows about (especially in regards to previous games) and Tales of Eternia (its offical name) after that whole Tales of Destiny 2 mistake on PS (of course the IQ of Namco means Tales of Eternia remake was never released in USA but then again Tales of Destiny 2 never was in EU which is actually Tales of Eternia was)
In terms of buying merchandise in EU we are forced to find obscure comic book stores or go online to 3rd party distributors (you cannot buy square-enix, tecmo products directly from square-enix, tecmo site unlike in USA)
If it sounds confusing, it is confusing.
Main reason why I think FF sells well, is the whole FF7 3d reputation and the realistic character approach.
Tales might have better characters, storyline and superior combat system (it took FF 12 incarnations to get a decent combat system working) but it still looks like a anime and for a lot of games in the previous series it had 2D games which didn't appeal to people (when Tales of Eternia was brand new, FF has 3d graphics)
Basically customers like realistic graphics and fmv over actual gameplay. _________________
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Pewiity

Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 53
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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FF also has Advent Children _________________
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JToTheP

Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 210 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| AlliedG wrote: |
Basically customers like realistic graphics and fmv over actual gameplay. |
Which is exactly why I say gaming is in the toilet. Kids today have no idea that the truly best games ever were made on the NES/SNES/Genesis. Yes, don't get me wrong, I have fond memories of Nintendo 64 games, Mario 64, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, but the best game ever made sure as hell is NOT Final Fantasy 7. Nor is it the best RPG ever made. I've yet to finish FF 4,5,6, on GBA, but I sure am glad I own them, and didn't bother getting 12 after I hated 10, and 11 bored the hell out of me.
And for all the complaints regarding ToD, I wish we'd get the remake that would end the complaints, or so it looks like it would.
And I'm not gonna say I know the best games ever made, because I'm sure I've skipped some great games throughout the years, and missed some I wish I got to play, Star Ocean 2, Chrono Trigger, and so forth. But the Golden age of gaming is long since history and that is a fact. NES/SNES/Genesis had the best things going for games, long before Sony and Squaresoft ruined everything with Final Fantasy 7. I would much rather take Mario RPG on the Virtual Console, when Square soft was good, than another damned FF. _________________
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CloudHiro

Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: |
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the main reasons why the tales series realllly doesnt do to well over here are two main reasons.
#1- Not publicised well enough. Not enough people really know about the tales series. In fact, I bet alot of the people who bought symphonia probably didnt even know it was part of a series.
#2- stiff competition. the games that have particularly low sales in the series over here usualy has some pretty big competition from RPG gameing jugernaughts such as square-enix and such. I mean, honestly, even if the games are miles better, most rpg fans just wont stray from the Square-Enix saftey zone. so many non-square-enix rpgs go fairly un-noticed. The exception being in this series is Symphonia. It had the advantage of being releaced on a system that seen so little in the way of rpgs, that at the first glance of a rpg being releaced on it the nintendo gamers pounced on it like a bunch of rabbid animals. |
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