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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't seriously believe Lloyd is going to be a "bad guy", do you?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conn wrote:
You don't seriously believe Lloyd is going to be a "bad guy", do you?


No. I was just trying to get people off the topic of katz or cats.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's start with this: Lloyd can't be any more "evil" than the average Tales badguy. So, basically, he'd be grossly misguided and tragic.

Or he could be mind controlled.

Or he could be an impersonator of some kind. (Killia anyone?)

Or he could be just being forced along against his will.

Etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't understand how Lloyd's ideals can change so drastically in two, three years. He's definitely being manipulated in one way or another.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or maybe that isn't Lloyd. Ha. -shot-
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conn wrote:
I really don't understand how Lloyd's ideals can change so drastically in two, three years. He's definitely being manipulated in one way or another.

Uh, yeah. <_< I really don't understand how people think he could even be remotely evil. ^.^;
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a745 wrote:
Or maybe that isn't Lloyd. Ha. -shot-

It's obviously Remiel, back from the dead, wearing a Lloyd disguise.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seiks wrote:
Let's start with this: Lloyd can't be any more "evil" than the average Tales badguy. So, basically, he'd be grossly misguided and tragic.

Or he could be mind controlled.

Or he could be an impersonator of some kind. (Killia anyone?)

Or he could be just being forced along against his will.

Etc.


That one is the one to make more sense. All signs are pointing at Colette right now, and you know how much Lloyd loves her. If anything it's doing those things to keep her alive.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seiks wrote:
Let's start with this: Lloyd can't be any more "evil" than the average Tales badguy. So, basically, he'd be grossly misguided and tragic.

Or he could be mind controlled.

Or he could be an impersonator of some kind. (Killia anyone?)

Or he could be just being forced along against his will.

Etc.


Or he realized how awesome it is to be a villain in a game.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RyuHiroshi wrote:
Or he realized how awesome it is to be a villain in a game.


yeah, it's so much more fun being evil!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally. Until you, like, die and then have to whine about your misguided ways. <_<
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he is blackmailed, I doubt Coco has something to do with it. She seemed pretty free in the trailer and description on the site...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldnt it possibly be, that we're the villains? :O playing against the good guys...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isaac232 wrote:
seiks wrote:
Let's start with this: Lloyd can't be any more "evil" than the average Tales badguy. So, basically, he'd be grossly misguided and tragic.

Or he could be mind controlled.

Or he could be an impersonator of some kind. (Killia anyone?)

Or he could be just being forced along against his will.

Etc.


That one is the one to make more sense. All signs are pointing at Colette right now, and you know how much Lloyd loves her. If anything it's doing those things to keep her alive.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sengyos wrote:
Couldnt it possibly be, that we're the villains? :O playing against the good guys...

But Colette and co are joining Emil as well. That would mean that everyone except Lloyd turned evil, which is even worse.
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