Zelos Wilder: an in-depth biography (SPOILERS)

[apprentice of zelos]

hey Spades good to see you finally got this up! i hope i was of help to you about the site and well asking about the whole bio thing! if you need anything just ask me mmkay
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[Tails-X]

...Whoa. That's a lot to write. And no, it didn't change my look on him, because I've always liked and understood him as much as anyone could. I'm not as stupid as I make myself out to be, like Zelos isn't all carefree like he makes himself out to be. I've done some searching around, since I was too lazy to get the scenes myself, and read up on it, and other articals like this one. And then there's the beloved fanfiction. Some writers get him completely wrong, while I think others write him PERFECTLY. In fact, there's one writer who I think should work for namco themselves and help out making a Tales of Symphonia II. Digi-Dolphin is just great! ^-^ But yeah. I guess you've helped my wuv for Zelos grow even more.
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[Master of Symphonia]

Thank you, LadyofSpades! That was absolutly fantastic. Zelos was my favorite game character ever before I read that, and now I love him even more.
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[Morwen Laicoriel]

LadyOfSpades, you are my hero. XD That was the best biography I've ever read for ANY character, I think. VERY well done, and explains why Zelos is one of my favorite characters.
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[kafeithekeaton]

Okay, I don't support Zelos. I mainly knew this stuff, just not as detailed.

Sure, he's had a tough past. Sure he's the Chosen, BUT, he was not going to be sacrficed.

He had it pretty well set up. Get Sheena to kill Colette, thus, he won't have to act like the Chosen, and can slack more.

He never really was going to be that Chosen who fights all the monsters. He wasn't planning it. Look at his equipment when you get him. A stilleto and wooden shield.

Yeah, he was REALLY serious about it.

Sure he has his secrets, but in the Kratos route, he still tries to kill you, to get ahead. Sure he has his reasons, but so does Yggdrasill. So then, Yggdrasill should be allowed to do his merry little things since Zelos can.

It just doesn't work like that. There are other ways to help your sister. Seles didn't want Zelos to die, but he kills gets himself killed for her anyway. Then she tries to avenge him.
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[Crazy Sunshine]

......I love you =)

This is just a lovely little thing; It's nice to have a solid biogrophy and everything seems pretty accurate. Now; Zelos has always been my favorite charcter. The fact he dosn't dwell in the past no matter now much he suffers; he just smiles and goes on. The fact that he dosn't go around angsting about his life is horrible just..slowly dies on the inside. Which is what will happen if something liek that happens to you anywhy. But he dosent go searching for pity; jsut moves on. I find that almost admirable

I've just seen so amny fans out there who can see no more of Zelos than just a two-dimensional man whore. It really makes me mad that no one can see deeper than his little life act...uh..I"ll stop ranting now ^^

but seriously; kudos to you for informing the masses ^^
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[NatsuRuby]

Thank you, Lady of Spades! The biography is wonderful! I really hate it when people don't even bother to give a second glance to characters like Zelos. They only see him as a player, and little else. I think people need to learn not to assume that they know all about someone just from seeing how that someone acts on the outside.

*claps* Again, great biography, Lady of Spades. This makes me like Zelos even more. And it almost makes me wanna do something like this, only for Colette. I think it's sick that the nicest, sweetest girl in the game is one of the most hated and bashed characters. >_< She's gone through a lot, too, dammit! Maybe it's just me, but I think that Colette wears somewhat of a mask, too.

[Fenfir]

I'm not a Zelos fan, but you have done a good job.
Personally, I think Kratos and Zelos should have had more in battle differences. Or something.
Oh, just a thought...
When Zelos randomly hugged Lloyd (Crazy Sunshine's Sig) at Altessa's house, did that have something to do with the renegades? After all, everyone but Lloyd, Collette and Mithos stayed asleep, (Mithos probobly never slept in the first place) so did Zelos do something there?
Who knows...
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[Guest]

On the issue of how it's determined whether you're the Chosen or not, I believe I can remember hearing references made by Collete that she was born with a Cruxis Crystal in her hand, or something like that. Sorta reminds me about the story of John Henry.
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[sistaofpeace1]

Excellent bio, very well done!!

There's actually something else that I think should be mentioned. If you get the "secret scene," you find out that Kratos and Zelos were pretty involved with each other (non-homosexually, of course).

The scene that I am talking about is if you see all the scenes (and talk to to the women) about Kratos gathering materials in Tethe'alla; I'm sure this scene is mentioned somewhere on these forums.

Basically, after you "activate" it, you go see Altessa after getting the doc from Flanoir. Here's how the scene goes (got this from GameFAQs.com):

Ninja: Have you come to pay a visit? Altessa is tired. Don't make him exert
himself.

[Group enters]

Altessa: Everyone...thank you. I owe you my life. I still can't believe that
Mithos is Yggdrasill...

Lloyd: Altessa...We'll settle things with Mithos.

Altessa: I see... You're going to Derris-Kharlan.

Lloyd: Yeah.

Altessa: ...Lloyd. There is a way for you to wield the Eternal Sword.

Lloyd: ...What?!

Altessa: Despite being a human, Lord Kratos is able to wield a magic sword
because of Aionis, which can only be mined in Derris-Kharlan.

Raine: Aionis has that kind of power?

[Zelos exits]

Altessa: Lord Kratos drank Aionis in powdered form. Cruxis calls it magic
transfusion.

Raine: ...Cruxis did it?

Sheena: So the magic transfusion that the stupid Chosen was talking about must
have been passed on by Cruxis through the Church of Martel...

Altessa: Aionis is capable of absorbing mana from its surroundings and
converting it into magic energy. If you could use that characteristic in some
way, you might be able to-- *Cough*

Lloyd: I told you not to exert yourself! Okay. After we defeat Mithos, we'll
search for that Aionis thing.

Altessa: ...Yes...but the only ones who might know where it is would be those
close to Yggdrasill...such as Lady Pronyma or...Lord Kratos...

Doctor: I forbid you to talk any more. If my patient dies on me, I won't get
paid for succeeding.

Lloyd: ...All right. *turns around* Hmm? Where's Zelos?
Ninja: The Chosen said he wanted to get some fresh air and took my place
keeping watch.

Lloyd: I see. Let's go get him.

[Group exits. Lloyd comes out and sees Zelos talking with a hologram of Kratos]

<If you spoke with Kratos in Flanoir...>
Zelos: If you want the answer from the question in Flanoir, it's "No." ...I'm
going to follow my own path. You can do whatever you want.

Kratos: ...Lloyd will be sad.

Zelos: I hope so. Anyways, you're gonna get in trouble if anyone catches you
transmitting to this location.

Kratos: ...Hmm...that is true. [hologram Kratos disappears]

<If you spoke with anyone else in Flanoir...>
Zelos: I guess you want an answer to your question in Flanoir. ...Okay...I'll do it. I'm the only one that can.

Kratos: ...I'm counting on you.

Zelos: But why don't you just do it yourself?

Kratos: I...am being watched. Sending this transmission is about the only thing
I can do. [hologram Kratos disappears]

Lloyd: Huh? Who're you talking to? It's not...

Zelos: *turns to face Lloyd* Huh? I've been here by myself the whole time.
What're you talking about, Lloyd?

Lloyd: But...

Zelos: Now, now, stop grumbling. Let's get to the Tower of Salvation.

And then everything else goes as planned, depending on who you spoke to

That scene alone definitely shows that Kratos had a part in whether Zelos betrayed the group or not. (I'm NOT trying to put down Zelos, I think he's also an excellent character; just saying that Kratos was probably more involved with Zelos than we initally thought )
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[LadyofSpades]

"Doctor: I forbid you to talk any more. If my patient dies on me, I won't get paid for succeeding. "

Wow... gotta love a doctor with motivation, ne?


Anyway, THANK YOU EVERYONE! ^__^ I'm glad you all like it so much! SiStAoFpEaCe1, you bring up an excellent point with that scene, but unfortunately I haven't finished it yet. So far I've only seen the Kratos-getting-the-sacred-wood-in-Ozette scene. But when I understand better the how & why of Kratos and Zelos' interactions, I will be sure to work it into the bio. Thanks for bringing it to my attenion!

And NatsuRuby, if you haven't started it already, I'm totally rooting for that Colette bio you wanted to write! I agree, a lot of people find her annoying because of her sweet nature, but don't they see the truth? One z-skit where she & Zelos were talking really gives insight. I believe it's called "Two Chosens", and they were talking about, well, being the chosens. Colette talks about how she would save the world despite if she lost herself, and Zelos called her amazing. But then she turned sad and said that it was just an act. If it really came down to it, she probably couldn't do it. Zelos still praised her, though.

Colette deserves recognigtion just as much as the other characters. People always pick on the nice girls, especially if they're the main girl in the story. (Zelda comes to mind...) So anyway, if you've been thinking about writing a bio on her to enlighten others, I say go for it! =)

And kafeithekeaton, just because it was highly unlikely that Zelos would have been sacrificed as Chosen, doesn't mean that his life was any more easier than if he was going to be sacrificed. Also, Zelos didn't have any part in Sheena's attempt to murder Colette. That was all Mizuho and partly the King. And maybe you forgot, but most of the characters had cruddy weapons when they first joined the party. Lloyd was planning to fight monsters and he still only started out with a wooden sword. Finally, there's a major difference between what Zelos wanted to do and what Yggdrasill was trying to do. Yes, Zelos made a bad choice if you took the Kratos route, and I'm not conding that, but to put Zelos & Yggy on the same page of bad deeds because of that is narrowminded. The world isn't black and white, and neither is this game.

*takes a deep breath* Alright, anyway, thanks again everyone for your (mostly) wonderful comments! I'm glad that this bio has brought Zelos much justice. ^_^; And also, if you haven't already, the Zelos Fanlisting is open so go show your Zelos appreciation by joining!
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[SymphoniaChica]

Wow that was an amazing bio. I really didn't know that much about Zelos. I've never done the thing where you choose to not talk 2 Colette in Flanoir, so I didn't know Zelos died!! I think I'd prefer the one where he redeemes himself after he betrays them all. Throughout the game I could tell there was something funny behind his carefree, laughing self. He's so interesting!! Well, I g2g unfortunately.
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[Gigagon2]

Excellent, excellent information, and well organized to boot. You are a credit to us all! ^^

About the betrayal issue; from the way things were said in the Tower of Salvation scenes, I was always under the impression that Zelos's actual betrayal had already taken place in that he had been actively leaking info to Cruxis and the Renegades. Recall his little conversations with himself when everyone is busy gathering the items to cure Colette.

"...Won't run away anymore...Damn, what should I do...?" Zelos quote from Altamira after Sheena decides not to run from her past anymore.

I personally think this was a major turning point for Zelos. It would have been after this that he would have started to seriously doubt what he was doing to his friends, and whether or not he was going to go through with letting Colette be sacrificed for Martel. It never seemed to me that the events in the Tower of Salvation were dynamic. I think Zelos makes his speech with the intention of dispelling any doubts Pronyma might've had in him. Obviously, it works pretty well since everyone actually believes him. After that, he tails the party, giving the trapped protagonists a hand, leading them to the chamber, jamming a sword in the door so dear Lloyd could get in, and grabbing the Aionis (not necessarily in that order XP ).

As far as the Kratos ending is concerned, I think Zelos's actions were still premeditated, a thought that is further backed up by the previously posted Zelos scene at Altessa's. I would imagine after traveling with the party for as long as he did, Zelos should've known that he would not be able to defeat them alone, angel powers out in the open or no. Because of Lloyd's lack of trust in him, Zelos finally gives up on his life, and tricks his friends into killing him. His intentions are still for the good of his friends as he knows that Kratos will be there to snag the Aionis and guide Lloyd for the remainder of the journey.

That's just what I think about the subject. I absolutely love Zelos's character, and that's why I felt it would be good to throw my opinion into the ring.