No religious thing?(my question)

shiki · Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 115

As far as I look,the summary of US version ToS has few religious word.
specially,I feel that the word of "god" is removed from there.

I don't know this industry well,
but is the US game industry avoiding religious things?

Or do I care about it too much?

Morwen Laicoriel · Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject:

Um...y'know, the US tends to shy away from overtly religious things. I don't really know why...they don't mind, say, New Age-y spiritualality, but even suggest that there's someone bigger out there than the US...like, say, God...and they seem to fly into a panic. ^^;
If the religious aspects are taken out, it's either...
1. Because it's *too* Christian...Japanese people tend to take Christian symbolism and add it in to their other stuff, which can offend some people (IE, someone being imprissioned in a crystal cross...in Japan, (from what I know--I'm no expert) a cross simply means someone who's innocent being punished...or something of that nature...but here in the US a cross generally refers to Christianity or Christ in some way, and it could offend people--"Are you saying she's as good as Jesus?", or something along that line)
2. Because it's just too religious. *shrugs* Which may or may not be a factor anymore...I mean, The Passion of the Christ DID do very well here in the US. ^^;
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trowabartan · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 331 Location: With cute girls

It's very hard to really explain since the explanation goes all the way back to the constitution and elaborates on many social uproar's in the last century. Basically you'd just have to live here to understand.

Personally it annoys the **** out of me. At least in rpgs because some of my favorite rpg stories have had strong religious involvement(meaning they were a big part of plot and mystery in the game's story). Off the top of my head FFT and grandia 2 come to mind
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shiki · Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 115

Thank you for a polite opinion.

Possibly,
since one character has the clothes which a big cross is drawn
on,
Tales of destiny(not eternia) may be not remade.
Moreover,his name is Judas!!(lol)

shiki · Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 115

"Tales of destiny(not eternia)"

correct.
Tales of destiny"2"

rune_devros · Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 15120 Location: Mayohiga

Religious allusions have always been a part of literature, I don't understand why they choose to omit them when games are localized. I guess, less often now, but our society is too politically correct. Just about anything is bound to offend people. I personally belong to my own one-man sect (sect not cult. There's a difference) so I am no offended by references to Christianity, Judiasm, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc. In my own writings, I often have characters that take the role of dieties whether from Classical Mythology or some of my own creation. I personally prefer mythological references in my games because they allow a more fantastic setting.
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TheMagicHat · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 459 Location: CO, USA

Try playing Xenogears/saga one of these days. Those have some of the largest religious and christian references I've ever seen in an RPG.

Personally, I don't see why they've ben cut out in recent RPGs. La Pucelle had a lot of crosses edited out, despite the characters being a part of at least two different churches. Yeah, there are a lot of hypersensitive people out there who seem to be out to get video game companies, but honestly it shouldn't be that big a deal.
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caramelpopcorn · Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 6321 Location: good ole' US of A

The Tales series (and a lot of other RPGs) usually has a lot of references to a god and a church. I personally don't mind anything, as long as it isn't mocking or deriding any religion.

Cubre · Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 1794 Location: -IN YOUR HEAD-

God(s) with the 's' is more ambigious....God is more christian like..
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Morwen Laicoriel · Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject:

Cyllya · Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject:

It's religious "affirmative action" -.-; (I hate all affirmative action, no matter which end of it I'm on.)

trowabartan · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 331 Location: With cute girls

hmm...with xenogears I found I disliked the combat system and I got bored out before I even got to the story(which is probably a shame). So I've been shying away from xenosaga. I do plan on picking it up though since I'm currently addicted to valkyrie profile and ToS and SO3 coming up soon I won't get around to it till later in the fall sometime.

Which is good since I like to wait until games are at bargain price before buying them. Of course the exception is with games I know I'll love and want to talk to people about. In the case of xenosage I'll wait until the second one is gonna come out and then get the first. That way if I love the first I can run out and get the second at a discount but personally I just don't like to wait if I know there is already a sequal directly following the story(which is what I did with .hack and it was great playing through all 4 in a row with only spending about as much as 2 games). Which is sortof why I'm really glad I didn't get into the wheel of time series until a couple years ago or else I'd really be going nuts about how long it's been dragging on like a lot of the fans are.
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Charlie · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 3:23 am Post subject:

TheMagicHat · Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 459 Location: CO, USA

Xenogears and Evangelion were being released around the same time in the US (I don't know about the japanese release dates), so I'm not sure if the Eva or Xeno bandwagon had enough time to gather steam to really influence fandom from each other. Then again, I didn't really like Evangelion (sacriliege, I know. I await the angry mob) so I wouldn't know or care either way.

I do, though, doubt that SquareSoft had too much interest in anime fandom in America to really care what was popular. Otherwise, they'd have used Xenogears' anime cutscenes (few as they were) as a selling point, which I don't recall them doing.
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Charlie · Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 4:53 am Post subject: