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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:21 pm    Post subject: Lenovo computers? Reply with quote

My old computer wasn't able to be repaired so they gave me some money back for it, and I was thinking about getting a lenovo because some friends recommended it to me. The one Im looking at is this one specifically. It is right on my budget price, but I'm looking for opinions/suggestions. I like to game a lot on my computer.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently using a Lenovo Yoga and it is wonderful. The last laptop I owned was a Lenovo Thinkpad and I used it for over 5 years. It was still working just fine when I gave it to a friend.

My last laptop had blue screen of death after about a year, but it was still under warranty so I received a replacement hard drive. Lenovo is great, but unfortunately they are owned by IBM and IBM is terrible. First they sent my package to the wrong address (my neighbor, who decided to keep it for himself) and when we got that figured out they sent me another one and tried to charge me for the one they sent to the wrong address. Then later they tried to charge me for both hard drive because I didn't send back my broken one (was not notified that I had to and packaging didn't include instructions or return packaging). The worst thing was that they were charging me about $100 more than a new one cost off of their own website. They eventually dropped the charges.

Anyways, no problems after that and both computers have been wonderful. Life span is far and away better than I've seen with Dell.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lenovo is wonderful. I got a Lenovo laptop for Christmas and I honestly never looked back.
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys you made me feel a lot better now about spending $800, I just purchased mine online, I hope it comes soon!!
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow jesselt, that's one scumbag neighbor.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Lenovo laptops are pretty sick. Mine's worked like a charm for 2 years now (the keyboard's dead, but I think that might have been my doing somehow).
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lenovo I had sucked balls. After a few months of pretty standard use, the screen had issues (vertical lines of pixels stuck on one color, and that spread over a few more years of use). The battery died just outside of a year, and then the replacement died after another year. After relying on the AC adapter for a while, that too died and would basically work for a time approximately equal to the amount of time it was left unplugged.

Hardware issues aside, Lenovo has some of the worst stock software I've ever seen. That nice, big hard drive sounds great until their ******** automatic backups are factored in; your actual available space is actually closer to a third of its quoted amount because it stores two (minimum as far as I could tell) full back ups on that drive. I haven't bought one since; currently using an HP and it's going rather well.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had bad experiences with my old HP laptop. The USB ports died exactly 1 day after the warranty expired. :/
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard good things. My roommate was in the market for a new laptop last summer and ended up deciding on Lenovo. A lot of bang for the buck, I guess. He has no problems with it, or playing games on it.

He also broke his adapter and had to order a new one. Apparently the customer service was pretty not-bad, which is saying something.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zacewing wrote:
I've had bad experiences with my old HP laptop. The USB ports died exactly 1 day after the warranty expired. :/


that reminds me: the USB by the optical drive never worked, period
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That 5400rpm hard drive is probably going to suck after a year or two but yeah. The IdeaPad line isn't exactly their best but they're a fine buy.

Make sure to set up your video rendering software to take advantage of the four cores if it doesn't do it automatically.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fun facts from a self-taught techxpert:

Stop lumping things together as a brand, it will lead you to make very poor decisions. Lenovo doesn't have consistent specs, suppliers, or manufacturers. Models may differ VASTLY across even minor model number/class differences. You instead have to take things as packages: the Lenovo Yoga has been recommended - but which one? As someone who has shopped for these devices numerous times over the last decade, you need to get hella specific. Maybe jesslut's Lenovo was the Yoga ThinkPad 12, and maybe that was a good one. Maybe it was the 11, and in the two years since that edition, Lenovo has changed to a Taiwanese manufacturer from their experienced Chinese assembly plant. I don't know, neither do you - this is why we must think of them all separately, and asking a question like "How are Lenovo?" is dangerous. Quality might vary wildly!

You've got a specific model available to you (Y400 IdeaPad 59371952), now is the time to do the Metacrawler Dance and find out whether it is garbage or golden. Hint: a website with lenovo in the url is not giving you accurate info! It is impossible to gauge how a user has treated their product before reviewing and what level of tech know-how they have at the time of writing, so you must take each individual review with a grain of salt. If someone sounds very reasonable to you, place more weight on their feedback than someone whu tipes lik dis becuz dis persin is obviously lacking a little something upstairs that may have caused whatever problems they are having. My general rule is: if I can find 3:1 positive to negative reviews, I believe the positives and dismiss the 1 as a product of the below paragraph. If it is 1:3 on the other hand, I am VERY hesitant to buy the product, there simply cannot be that much bad luck at play. Numbers mean a lot here, the more reviews you can find the better your understanding will be. A little homework can save you from buying an $800 coaster.

Finally, we live in an age of RMA: when buying any new electronics, a certain portion of them will be dead out of the box because of A) the general strain of international shipment and B) an exploding counterfeiting market. Don't get scared if the first one you buy doesn't work. Like jesselt mentioned, though, IBM handle's Lenovo's stateside business, and they have earned a nasty reputation as bottom-of-the-barrel in customer service.

Now, on to the specs of the lappy: the hard drive, like Drake says, blows. I don't know if 5400 is a laptop standard, but 7200 has been available and cheap for many, many years. It isn't going to be zippy out of the box, and that won't improve. Consider getting an external SSD for all of your larger and frequently accessed files and keep only the bare minimum on the lappy itself to save yourself some slowdown frustration later (this won't be very inconvenient at all outside of the need to have a table for the physical drive - you have USB 3.0 ports available and will have very quick responses). The processor is decent, it is the low-end lappy version of the top tier of yesteryear's lappy CPUs. Low end of the top tier is still pretty good, and for the price, more than acceptable. Memory-wise, you're set. 8 gigs of DDR3 will let you open tabs on tabs without breaking a sweat, but I can't find the brand of the RAM in the listing. That isn't too scary, even counterfeiters can figure out whether a RAM stick is burnt out or not, but it does mean it is almost impossible to do further research. The video card is a peculiar case, they've chosen to put in a card recommended for a minimum of 15" laptops into the 14 inch ThinkPad. What that means is that you're getting a slightly more powerful card than you normally would, but the trade off is going to be significant heating up and above average drain on the battery. Lenovo has no doubt tested the set-up and it runs, but you should know that it might not last forever or run at 100% after any length of On time. Heat reduces the efficiency of every part, not just the v-card, and this is much more noticeable in a laptop (especially when your hands start to sweat!).

Also, it comes with Windows 8. I apologize in advance on behalf of Microsoft.

In short, for the price this lappy will do what you want. But take heed if you anticipate any multi-hour game sessions in your future.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This topic is making me so anxious to sell my laptop and buy a new one.
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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sister has a Lenovo that, if it is off, and you press a certain ORANGE BUTTON RIGHT ON THE FRONT, it will format/restore your hard drive.

Yep.

Also that 14" screen would be a total deal breaker for me. But I hope you enjoy it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has Been wrote:
Consider getting an external SSD for all of your larger and frequently accessed files and keep only the bare minimum on the lappy itself


say what???

if you feel really bad about the 5400 rpm hard drive speed, check to see if this model has an mSATA port. if so, you can grab an mSATA SSD to install as your system drive for nice speed. your spinning hard drive will then be used mostly for storage of your big files (movies, music, photos, etc.).

i got a 256 gb crucial m4 msata for about $175. right now the 128 gb are $120, but you can be on the lookout for a good deal. i wouldn't recommend going below 128 gb unless you don't use any large programs (e.g. games, professional software, etc.). remember that a good rule of thumb is to keep about 20% of an SSD free so it can do reasonable wear leveling.

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The video card is a peculiar case, they've chosen to put in a card recommended for a minimum of 15" laptops into the 14 inch ThinkPad. What that means is that you're getting a slightly more powerful card than you normally would, but the trade off is going to be significant heating up and above average drain on the battery.


it should be set up with Optimus technology, meaning that it dynamically switches between the Intel HD4000 (which has excellent energy efficiency) and the Nvidia as needed. of course, intense gaming sessions could still get hot, but lenovos generally seem to have good fans/vents.

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Also, it comes with Windows 8. I apologize in advance on behalf of Microsoft.


this is a pro, not a con

one spec that hasn't been previously discussed is the screen resolution. 1366x768 on 14" isn't too bad, but 1600x900 would have been much awesomer.
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