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Zacewing

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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:40 am Post subject: |
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I hate the fact that most of my favourite champions are easily countered. I pretty much never get to play them cause whenever I do, I get countered, which often causes me to lose my lane and possibly cost my team the game. I never used to be mindful of counters before, but now I always get countered when I pick who I want to play (especially if I go mid, unless I play Diana or Elise). More often than not, if I'm not last pick, I have to go with a "safe pick" that's hard to counter (i.e. Caitlyn), which sucks because playing the same champions in every game gets dull. _________________
| Azer Kriemhild wrote: | I feel as though a man whose mission it was to go where no man has gone before would have some pretty good ideas on where to find good hotel rates
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Skythe

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 11421 Location: The real battle is not of power, but of will.
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Zacewing

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Colony5g

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, Quinn buffs. Excellent. |
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braindead200

Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 9433 Location: DOJYAAAAAAN
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Sej rewooooooooooooork _________________
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Skythe

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 11421 Location: The real battle is not of power, but of will.
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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if you don't use sejuani's icon, then you are a terrorist _________________
[12/4/2009 10:59:17 PM] thingrue: skythe did you routinely huff paint thinner as a child |
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braindead200

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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Quinn rose from bad to MAYBE below average.
Cooldown on her ult helps a lot but I haven't really noticed anything else. _________________
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Zacewing

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Lissandra I can't asdfghjkl;
I'm kinda bad with her so far, though. _________________
| Azer Kriemhild wrote: | I feel as though a man whose mission it was to go where no man has gone before would have some pretty good ideas on where to find good hotel rates
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Skythe

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 11421 Location: The real battle is not of power, but of will.
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 4:23 am Post subject: |
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lissandra sucks
1 pixel range
her ult is the only good thing
karma and sejuani though _________________
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Colony5g

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 7:17 am Post subject: |
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lol
Her range really is one **** pixel. |
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Kratos Auron

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| braindead200 wrote: | Quinn rose from bad to MAYBE below average.
Cooldown on her ult helps a lot but I haven't really noticed anything else. |
I haven't tried it yet, but I imagine the buffs would make quinn near unstoppable top lane though. Enemy lane opponent starts acting funny? W to check for ganks if you have no wards. Your W gives you speed now when you proc harrier, so you can stick to your targets. Vault also briefly stuns now, which can interrupt a bunch of stuff. Also holy **** tag team... so fast at rank 3. On the topic of her ult, you'd actually be able to take advantage of it with a little more durability, so top bruiser makes even more sense.
Honestly, I think Quinn's only problem as an ADC is her short range. Which is the same problem Vayne has, and is the only reason people consider them garbage. (Bad early games.) _________________
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Trick Magnet

Joined: 04 Aug 2005 Posts: 5922 Location: 卍
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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vayne has the same auto attack range as almost every other ad carry (550), and it isn't range that makes them weak early game (sivir and graves both sub 550, both strong laners) _________________
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Zacewing

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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Quinn wasn't even that bad to begin with. She was never top tier or anything, but she's a great lategame carry and has some pretty good utility. Clever use of her ult, imo, gives her a higher skill cap in relation to a lot of the other carries. The only downside to her imo was her bad range (which isn't a huge tick against her), and that her E can put her at a disadvantage when used in certain situations. Thankfully, the latter was fixed in this patch by adding a mini-stun to her E.
So yeah, she wasn't amazing or anything before her buffs, but I'd say she was at least mid tier. _________________
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Skythe

Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 11421 Location: The real battle is not of power, but of will.
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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her range works against her kit
however her passive grants such a noticeable boost in power so that she can lane well
maneuvering with her is a nightmare, she has one free escape but it's not easy to use and her blind hits the first target area in its path
she's average but not as good as the other carries
her late game is scary but at that point you need a lot of protection for her to go ham in ult form _________________
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_outlaw

Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 7390 Location: Got up this morning, things weren't working right...
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Trick Magnet wrote: | | vayne has the same auto attack range as almost every other ad carry (550), and it isn't range that makes them weak early game (sivir and graves both sub 550, both strong laners) |
I miss Vayne being able to attack, tumble, attack for all of their life at level 1. _________________
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