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Well, he is quite stubborn, so "strong will" works, doesn't it?
And yeah the Cheagle tribe xD
The meaning is especially funny because they're a really weak tribe.
For some reason I imagine them looking like Gentlemieu lol
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ToX2 Original Chat - How To Use A GHS
(Source: Official World Guidance Book)
Milla: GHS are interesting devices. Are they hard to use, Gaius?
Gaius: Why do you ask me?
Milla: Well, because I see you have one. Is there a problem?
Gaius: ...No. The first thing you must be careful about is the power switch.
GHS use starts and ends from there.
Musee: If you push on the button too strongly like a certain someone, it's
the GHS itself that ends, so be careful ♪
Gaius: ...The second thing you should watch out for is the power charge.
You have to plug it in at least once a day. Don't forget.
Rowen: And if you forget to plug it in, don't worry, it's not broken. Please
don't panic like a certain person I know.
Gaius: ...
Milla: I see. It's a delicate tool, it seems. I'd like to use one, but maybe it's
too hard...
Rowen: Oh, please don't say that. Just try. It would be wonderful to be
able to text the Lord of Spirits.
Gaius: Indeed, you have nothing to fear. Once you master it, it becomes
a useful tool.
Musee: Coming from someone who broke twelve of them before he could
master it, your advice is valuable indeed ♪
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| Yume Hanabi wrote: | | Well, he is quite stubborn, so "strong will" works, doesn't it? |
From that angle you have a point (in that case what a curse of a name).
To me though, strong will and stubborn are complete opposites.
Strong will means you're either unbreakable or close to it.
Stubborn means your rigid and will hold onto something no matter the reason. Which is more negative feeling compared to determined which has a more forward thinking feel.
Spoiler =Natchigal changed because he lost his sister and couldn't get over it right? Seems like he's a foil to Rowen who had a strong enough will to move on eventually while Natchigal wouldn't let himself and became so bad because of it. That's how I saw it anyway.
| Quote: | And yeah the Cheagle tribe xD
The meaning is especially funny because they're a really weak tribe.
For some reason I imagine them looking like Gentlemieu lol |
Holy Moses, no wonder the tribes invincible despite that then. Everyone's too freaked out by them to come close enough!
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ToX2 Original Chat - How To Use A GHS
(Source: Official World Guidance Book)
Milla: GHS are interesting devices. Are they hard to use, Gaius?
Gaius: Why do you ask me?
Milla: Well, because I see you have one. Is there a problem?
Gaius: ...No. The first thing you must be careful about is the power switch.
GHS use starts and ends from there.
Musee: If you push on the button too strongly like a certain someone, it's
the GHS itself that ends, so be careful ♪
Gaius: ...The second thing you should watch out for is the power charge.
You have to plug it in at least once a day. Don't forget.
Rowen: And if you forget to plug it in, don't worry, it's not broken. Please
don't panic like a certain person I know.
Gaius: ...
Milla: I see. It's a delicate tool, it seems. I'd like to use one, but maybe it's
too hard...
Rowen: Oh, please don't say that. Just try. It would be wonderful to be
able to text the Lord of Spirits.
Gaius: Indeed, you have nothing to fear. Once you master it, it becomes
a useful tool.
Musee: Coming from someone who broke twelve of them before he could
master it, your advice is valuable indeed ♪ |
My, seems like Milla and Gauis would be a deathly combo to to technology. Milla should just stick to Rowen. The King can conquer lands and people, but not phones.
Though Rowen's so smart! Texting God! What a way to get divine answers on short notice (she'd probably just ask about food though).
Thanks for your work. I appreciate it. That whole talk was hilarious.
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Ah, you have a point, but in this case, given the kanji, I think it just means that you stick to your beliefs (in Nachty's case, that he needs power, I suppose). Maybe I should reword it better...
| Quote: | | Holy Moses, no wonder the tribes invincible despite that then. Everyone's too freaked out by them to come close enough! |
Now I get it! 
| Quote: | | My, seems like Milla and Gauis would be a deathly combo to to technology. Milla should just stick to Rowen. The King can conquer lands and people, but not phones. |
QFT
Oh Gaius, always so contradictory... He's such a fascinating character. Skits with him are always hilarious xD
| Quote: | | Though Rowen's so smart! Texting God! What a way to get divine answers on short notice (she'd probably just ask about food though). |
I suppose GHS don't work in the Spirit World, otherwise I could totally see them keep in touch this way!
(btw, check your PM's ^^)
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ToX2 Chat - #115 Pro Gambler
Leia: Heheheh. Finally... The day has finally come...!!
Alvin: We've won a total of 100,000 chips at poker! Wow, we sure made a killing.
Milla: Ooh, just hearing the figure makes me excited. We really are something.
Rowen: When you think about it, it's just a matter of probability. However, if we let greed get the better of us...
Gaius: We end up losing more than we've gained. That's how gambling works.
Leia: But we've won 100,000 chips! If we keep this on, we'll be pro gamblers in no time!
Alvin: Calm down. That's another matter. Right, Ludger?
Ludger: Yeah, Alvin's right.
Alvin: Yup. "If you wanna play, don't gamble. If you wanna gamble, don't play." That's an unspoken rule in Elenpios.
Leia: Boo. So I can't...?
Gaius: Leia is the type to get ahead of herself and thus ruin herself.
Leia: Aww!
Milla: Gaius, don't scare her.
Rowen: He's just joking, ho ho ho.
Gaius: And Rowen is the type to let idle talk ruin him.
Rowen: Aww...
Gaius: Heh.
Ludger: Haha.
Alvin: Well, anyway, be careful how you spend your chips, OK?
ToX2 Chat - #152 Mabo Curry For Who?
Gaius: Elle, I just recently learned that Ludger’s mabo curry isn’t spicy, is it?
Elle: He’s making it specially for me. It’s pretty good.
Gaius: I see. In that case, I can eat it without fea–
Rowen: Just wait a moment! The Elle Version sounds good indeed, but what I would personally like to try is a special very spicy Adult Version.
Gaius: I don’t think that spicy food has anything to do with being an adult.
Rowen: Ludger, please make us an Adult Version next time. For Gaius and I ♪
Gaius: F-For us!?
Ludger: All right, I’ll try an Adult Version next time.
Rowen: Oh, thank you! I’m looking forward to see how you will mix the hottest spices you can find.
Elle: But I can’t eat thaaaat!
Rowen: I win this time. Please don’t hold it against me. Gaius, I am sure you will love the super spicy Adult Version ♪
Gaius: Grr…
Rowen&Ludger: *leave*
Elle: Having a contest with a child is not adult-like at all!
Gaius: I couldn’t agree more! I bet he still resents me for approving the reprint of his poem anthology and–
Elle: Poem anthology?
Gaius: *ahem* Yes, you are right. He is so childish.
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| Quote: | | Ah, you have a point, but in this case, given the kanji, I think it just means that you stick to your beliefs (in Nachty's case, that he needs power, I suppose). Maybe I should reword it better... |
Maybe he thought if he had all the power he needed he either wouldn't lose anyone or wouldn't need anyone?
Strong willed seems good enough, it's not uncommon to call people stubborn like him that. I was probably over thinking it. xp
| Quote: | | Oh Gaius, always so contradictory... He's such a fascinating character. Skits with him are always hilarious xD |
Oh Gaius, how you've fought your way as one of my favorites. How can you be such a imposing Dork.
| Quote: | | I suppose GHS don't work in the Spirit World, otherwise I could totally see them keep in touch this way! |
I guess they need to work the frequencies. >> Maybe Jude can invent something. Texting seems to bring people together, why not spirits? =D
Pfft, Looks like Gaius and Rowen have a real funny dynamic. Seem's like Rowen's always ruffling his feathers while Gaius can only get one over him in a blue moon (Gaius looks like he's being treated on Elle's level in the second one. Does this mean Gaius has a child's taste?).
Nice to see Gaius has someone like Rowen by his side to treat him like an equal, or someone to mess with. I like seeing Gaius interact with others like this. It's nice. Gives him more depth beyond the King image.
| Quote: | Gaius: I couldn’t agree more! I bet he still resents me for approving the reprint of his poem anthology and–
Elle: Poem anthology?
Gaius: *ahem* Yes, you are right. He is so childish. |
Hope it wasn't anything like that one novel Rowen regretted writing. XD
(Haven't played Xillia2 and won't unless there's a english one. Hopefully I'll get to have Gaius In my party one day). Xx
Thanks for translating. =D
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| Ismeria_Gold wrote: | | Maybe he thought if he had all the power he needed he either wouldn't lose anyone or wouldn't need anyone? |
iirc, he started looking for power as a means to protect those dear to him, but as time passed, he lost sight of his objective and looked for power for the sake of keeping power. It's sad, really.
| Ismeria_Gold wrote: | | Oh Gaius, how you've fought your way as one of my favorites. How can you be such a imposing Dork. |
Thiiiiis. And the best part is that 8 times out of 10, he's dorky on purpose. (And sometimes not. I mean, WAILDO COMBINEISHUN? He and Wingull could be such dorks sometimes XD *longs for a Gaius-centric prequel/novel/whatever*)
| Ismeria_Gold wrote: | Pfft, Looks like Gaius and Rowen have a real funny dynamic. Seem's like Rowen's always ruffling his feathers while Gaius can only get one over him in a blue moon (Gaius looks like he's being treated on Elle's level in the second one. Does this mean Gaius has a child's taste?).
Nice to see Gaius has someone like Rowen by his side to treat him like an equal, or someone to mess with. I like seeing Gaius interact with others like this. It's nice. Gives him more depth beyond the King image. |
I love the Rowen-Gaius dynamics, I'm sad they don't interact more in cutscenes (I'm sad everyone doesn't interact more in cutscenes). Also Wingull should have so survived because he and Rowen would make the ultimate "troll Gaius" combi.
lol it's not the only one where he gets treated on Elle's level. He and her strangely make a good association.
X2 Gaius is awesome, we really get to see another side of him. The other day I was rewatching some scenes from X1 and watching the party wonder how they should present themselves with Gaius is so funny in hindsight. I think they didn't need to worry. He looks cold, scary and imposing, but he's a very warm person and has a great sense of humor.
| Ismeria_Gold wrote: | | Hope it wasn't anything like that one novel Rowen regretted writing. XD |
It's the one. "A Maddening Cry of Love". And the way Gaius changes the subject in the end leads me to think that there are a number of erotic poems in that anthology...
Alvin and Jude must be happy it got a reprint, they were so curious about it XD
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ToX2 Chat - #117 Cat Emperor
Lulu: Meow.
Elise: Lulu is looking more and more dignified.
Milla: Of course. How can he not be, with so many cats as his underlings?
Elise: You're right. Now Lulu is more than the Cat King, he's the Cat Emperor.
Tipo: Sounds more impressive than the Lord of Spirits!
Milla: Wha!? Even if he's the Cat Emperor, he can't beat Maxwell, right?
Lulu: Meowr?
Elise: Here comes the Cat Emperor!
Tipo: Bow before the emperor!
Milla: Ludger, what do you think?
Ludger: The Lord of Spirits is more impressive.
Milla: Oh, thank you. I knew I could count on you.
Gaius: Milla, calm down. Entering a competition against a cat is a loss in itself.
Milla: You're right. I'm sorry, that was unsightly of me.
Tipo: But isn't the Cat Emperor more impressive than the king of Rieze Maxia?
Gaius: Heh, I don't normally rise to such low provocation, but... I cannot let this affront slide.
Lulu: Miaaaaaaw!? *flees*
Gaius: I won't let you run away! I challenge you to a duel! *follows Lulu*
Milla: Right, that's a sorry sight indeed. I have learned my lesson.
ToX2 Chat - #118 Giganto Hunter
Alvin: We've beaten a lot of Giganto monsters, haven't we?
Elise: Yes. They were surprising the first time...
Tipo: But we manage, in the end.
Musee: Gigantos are so huge and creepy...
Tipo: Yeah, they're hupy.
Musee: If Tipo was bigger, I think he'd be pretty creepy as well.
Tipo: A sudden insult!?
Elise: It's not true.
Musee: It is! It giganto is!
Elise: Musee, you're giganto mean.
Alvin: Wow, I sense a giganto fight coming. What should we do, Ludger?
Ludger: Stop it, both of you. We beat the Gigantos thanks to our teamwork, remember?
Alvin: R-Right!? Listen, girls, Ludger just said something good!
Gaius: Are you sure? Aren't they supposed to be challenged alone for training?
Alvin: You're giganto special so just stay quiet, OK?
Gaius: No, I have something to say. If Tipo was as huge as a house, I think he would be much cuter!
Tipo: Tipo House?
Elise: I never thought of that!
Musee: Ooh, a house so soft and funny, it's so cute I'd want to live in it ♥ Elise, Tipo, I was wrong. I'm giganto sorry.
Elise: I'm glad we've reached an understanding.
Gaius: Case closed!
Alvin: Gaius... Don't overdo it.
ToX2 Chat - #132 The Snow Kingdom, Khan Baliq
Elle: It's SO cold!
Lulu: Meow...
Gaius: Really? It's still warm today.
Elle: No way! It can't get colder than this! Right, Ludger?
Ludger: I'm with Gaius on that one, it's not that cold.
Gaius: Isn't it? I don't need my coat today.
Elle: N-No way! You'll catch a cold!
Gaius: It's all a matter of training yourself. When I was in my twenties, I used to walk around with short sleeves while eating icicles as ice candy.
Ludger: Huh!?
Gaius: You can get used to anything. But you can stand cold well, Ludger. In that case, I will show you some special places when I have the time.
Lulu: Meow?
Gaius: When I was a child, I built a huge igloo that I used as my secret hideout in the coldest region. There are also many places in Khan Baliq that only locals know about.
Elle: Lulu, the king is so amazing, isn't he?
Lulu: Meow...
ToX2 Chat - #135 Dir Speciality
Elle: It smells good!
Gaius: It must be the grilled fish. Dir's specialities are fish and alcohol.
Rowen: It seems that the local liquor is good this year too. I just got samples from a stand. Would you like to try?
Gaius: I was just getting thirsty, thank you.
Elle: Wait, in one gulp!?
Gaius: Haa. Yes, it's good...
Rowen: Ho ho ho, please don't worry. Gaius has a high tolerance for alcohol.
Gaius: I understand... why you recommanded it to meow...
Ludger: Huh!?
Elle: Did he just say "meow"!?
Rowen: Gaius, are you all right?
Gaius: I'm fine. No worry. My tongue... just twisted...
Rowen: It seems he doesn't stand shochu well. And to say none of the other liquors affect him... What an unexpected discovery, heheh.
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| Yume Hanabi wrote: | | Thiiiiis. And the best part is that 8 times out of 10, he's dorky on purpose. (And sometimes not. I mean, WAILDO COMBINEISHUN? He and Wingull could be such dorks sometimes XD *longs for a Gaius-centric prequel/novel/whatever*) |
Better yet, make a prequel game where we play as main character Gaius from underdog kid champion to mighty King!
edit: oh wait, you said that. Only saw the novel part, nevermind. XD
| Quote: | | X2 Gaius is awesome, we really get to see another side of him. The other day I was rewatching some scenes from X1 and watching the party wonder how they should present themselves with Gaius is so funny in hindsight. I think they didn't need to worry. He looks cold, scary and imposing, but he's a very warm person and has a great sense of humor. |
I guess Gaius can't help it, he must have been born with that face. =/
I'm strangely reminded of Peony. All the best Kings in Tales of are the ones who like to act childish/dorky it seems. =D
| Quote: | It's the one. "A Maddening Cry of Love". And the way Gaius changes the subject in the end leads me to think that there are a number of erotic poems in that anthology...
Alvin and Jude must be happy it got a reprint, they were so curious about it XD |
Oh, well if that's the case no wonder Rowen trolls so hard. I would too. That Gaius (I wonder if it was Jude or/and Alvin who told him about it). Gaius and Rowen will probably have their own cycle of petty revenge here and there until one or the other dies.
| Quote: | Gaius: No, I have something to say. If Tipo was as huge as a house, I think he would be much cuter!
Tipo: Tipo House?
Elise: I never thought of that! |
Sooo, we can thank Gaius for the Hot spring ending?
Yes, I saw it, by accident. Bet he didn't think it was so cute then?
| Quote: | Lulu: Meow.
Elise: Lulu is looking more and more dignified.
Milla: Of course. How can he not be, with so many cats as his underlings?
Elise: You're right. Now Lulu is more than the Cat King, he's the Cat Emperor.
Tipo: Sounds more impressive than the Lord of Spirits!
Milla: Wha!? Even if he's the Cat Emperor, he can't beat Maxwell, right?
Lulu: Meowr?
Elise: Here comes the Cat Emperor!
Tipo: Bow before the emperor!
Milla: Ludger, what do you think?
Ludger: The Lord of Spirits is more impressive.
Milla: Oh, thank you. I knew I could count on you.
Gaius: Milla, calm down. Entering a competition against a cat is a loss in itself.
Milla: You're right. I'm sorry, that was unsightly of me.
Tipo: But isn't the Cat Emperor more impressive than the king of Rieze Maxia?
Gaius: Heh, I don't normally rise to such low provocation, but... I cannot let this affront slide.
Lulu: Miaaaaaaw!? *flees*
Gaius: I won't let you run away! I challenge you to a duel! *follows Lulu*
Milla: Right, that's a sorry sight indeed. I have learned my lesson. |
Milla learns from Gaius who can't learn from himself. =D
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| Ismeria_Gold wrote: | | I'm strangely reminded of Peony. All the best Kings in Tales of are the ones who like to act childish/dorky it seems. =D |
I am too. Gaius-Rowen is a bit like Peony-Jade. And I imagine Wingull to be a bit like that too, but not to the extent of Rowen (he's the one with the "Jade" middle name rofl). Haa why isn't Wingull in X2? Those three together would make up the best government ever.
| Ismeria_Gold wrote: | | Sooo, we can thank Gaius for the Hot spring ending? |
Yup, I think we can blame him for that one. I hope for him the other guys never realize xD
| Ismeria_Gold wrote: | | Milla learns from Gaius who can't learn from himself. =D |
I'm pretty sure he knew exactly what he was doing xP
He likes to put on a show, doesn't he?
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Hey, Yume. Quick question.
Are magic users/Gates nonexistent in Elenpios or are they just extremely rare? (Before the whole "people accidentally crossing the Shell" stuff, I mean)
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"Gate" (localized as "mana lobe") is not the name of magic users; it's the name of the part of the brain that emits mana.
Spell casting goes like this:
The people of Elenpios also have mana lobes, but they are inactive. That said, there are a few people with active mana lobes, but they're really rare, and probably not very skilled (no place to learn about spirits artes, plus the lack of spirits).
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Tales of Xillia 2 - Unused Alt World Ideas
(Source: Tales of Xillia 2 Official World Guidance Book)
The guide tells us a little about some ideas the creative team had for Alt Worlds but that ended up not being used.
WARNING: XILLIA 2 SPOILERS
A world without Leia
The party enters the Alt World in Lu Rondo, and by talking to NPC realize they don’t know Leia. They discover that Leia’s mother Sonia married a different man than Leia’s father. By talking to him, they learn that a long time ago, he wanted to ask her out but never got the courage to. That small difference was enough to prevent Leia for existing. As in the Real World, Jude went to med school and the world goes on mostly unchanged. This feeds into Leia’s self-doubts but she also treasures the luck of being born in her world.
A world where Ludger rejected his fate
In this world, Alt!Ludger has abandoned his mission, because he didn’t want to hurt anyone anymore - and besides, since he comes from an Alternate World, he knew that he was doomed to disappear one day, so might as well spend what’s left of his life as a normal person. Real!Ludger destroys this world with conflicted feelings.
Lady Nadia’s vacation
A world where Agria lived a happy life as Nadia Travis. There is a festival in Ha Mir, and the party finds her there with Alt!Elise and Alt!Leia. They watch as the three of them have fun dancing, and then, suddenly, they spot Gaius (or an Alt!Gaius, not sure) and Alt!Leia and Alt!Elise push a nervous Nadia toward him and they exchange a few words. Nadia goes back to her friends and the party can hear her whisper “he’s even more cool than I imagined” and the three of them giggle. They then disappear into the crowd, and Leia watches them go, her heart aching for her world’s Agria tragic life and fate. She resolves never to forget “that Agria”.
An ironic fate
A world where Milla eventually destroyed Exodus, but later than in F4216’s Alt!Milla’s world. Alt!Jude works with Professor Hauss and they’re making big progress in… gin research! Alt!Milla tries to hinder their research and Alt!Jude manages to escape her and entrust his data to Real!Leia. When the party goes back to the Real World, the data turns to dust…
Gaius and Wingull
In this world, Wingull never joined Gaius, and opposed him as the Londau patriarch. He and Alt!Gaius are archenemies, and he tries to capture Alt!Gaius and publicly execute him. For that, he uses Carla. But Alt!Gaius abandons his sister because he can’t let go of his ambition. The party watches those events unfold, and Gaius ends up taking out Alt!Wingull and Alt!Gaius himself.
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Sigh, so much wasted potential.
I like all of those ideas more than the ones that made it in the actual game.
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WOW.
So much potential.
I guess that's what you have to give up for a short and concise story.
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Yume Hanabi
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No, that's what you have to give up for a bunch of facepalm-inducing plotholes-filled ideas.
| Myself elsewhere wrote: | Why do all the discarded ideas for Alt Worlds that we can read about in the guides sound ten times more interesting (and make more sense!) than what we got in the actual game? >_>
I imagine the designing sessions must be something like this:
- So we have two ideas for the world they visit with Gaius in chapter 8/9. One sounds epic and one creates a lot of plotholes. Which one should we pick?
- The plotholes one of course!
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