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rothcol_shepard
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| BlueFuji wrote: | | You should be grateful in general they still bring the games over despite their less than stellar sales. |
Quite frankly I don't give a damn if they do.
I'd rather play it completely in Japanese than play it dubbed. |
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Lunar Eclipse
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Then play the game in Japanese and don't concern yourself with the North American releases of the series. One can't help but wonder why you're so relentless about cramming this notion of dual audio being your right down the throats of a generally powerless group of North American fans for a spottily localized series that you've apparently found incredibly distasteful for over a decade since it's never had Japanese voices in our region.
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^this times a thousand at this point.
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| Lunar Eclipse wrote: | | Then play the game in Japanese and don't concern yourself with the North American releases of the series. One can't help but wonder why you're so relentless about cramming this notion of dual audio being your right down the throats of a generally powerless group of North American fans for a spottily localized series that you've apparently found incredibly distasteful for over a decade since it's never had Japanese voices in our region. |
*claps*
Well said.
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rothcol_shepard
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| Lunar Eclipse wrote: | | Then play the game in Japanese and don't concern yourself with the North American releases of the series. One can't help but wonder why you're so relentless about cramming this notion of dual audio being your right down the throats of a generally powerless group of North American fans for a spottily localized series that you've apparently found incredibly distasteful for over a decade since it's never had Japanese voices in our region. |
http://www.play-asia.com/Ayesha_no_Atelier_Tasogare_no_Daichi_no_Renkinjutsushi_w_Atelier/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-4q8j.html
Because it is $75, and then being in Canada I am going to have to pay customs on it, so it will probably cost me over $80.
The US version is $50. It's all about the price. I refuse to buy it until I can get it for the same price as the US version, however long that takes.
With the Atelier series, its the fact that this is an EXPECTED feature at this point, unlike Tales. It is something we HAD on EVERY game and all of a sudden, it has been taken away.
You really surprised people are refusing to buy the game over it?
And you know what, the backlash worked. Tecmo APOLOGIZED for this, saying they underestimated the demand for it and it will be added back to later games.
That wouldn't have happened if everyone had just shut up and bought the game.
Also, Valkyria Chronicles 1 had dual-audio. VC2 did not. I bought it anyway to support the series. But guess what? WE DIDN'T EVEN GET VC3 IN ANY FORM. Yeah, fan support totally helped in the end. That's why I only buy games to play them only, never solely to support them. |
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we didn't get vc3 because the PSP was dead over here by the time it was out in Japan
dual audio had nothing to do with it
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I'm confused ... Are you complaining about Atelier Ayesha or Xillia?
If the former, please stay on topic and discuss Xillia in this section. I've seen a lot of derailment lately between talk of the Ayesha issue, a chunk of posts about Kingdom Hearts, and a series of posts about several other games. There's a separate video game section for that.
If the latter, no one's asking you to be quiet and buy the game. Feel free to voice your concerns and not buy the game in an attempt to effect change in Namco Bandai's localization practices, but you shouldn't expect those who are satisfied with the product to follow suit. At this point, we've heard your arguments and get what you're doing. Throwing in twenty more walls of text (about off-topic games to boot) isn't going to make your point of view any more appealing to those not of the same mind.
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So get a job, and buy the thing instead of whining, and wasting your life on a forum telling others childishly about your problems.
You don't deserve to bring Valkyria into this, they're so many other factors than just your lust for dual audio for it not coming over.
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| BlueFuji wrote: | So get a job, and buy the thing instead of whining, and wasting your life on a forum telling others childishly about your problems.
You don't deserve to bring Valkyria into this, they're so many other factors than just your lust for dual audio for it not coming over. |
You know, there is a difference between not having a job and not wanting to support greedy corporations for over changing for their products.
Paying $80 for a game is ridiculous. No way am I supporting that. |
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It's like i'm reading a youtube comment, dear god it's not even worth it.
I will keep my brain fine and dandy as it is away from melting ah thank you.
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Goddamn it, rothcol. I'd thought you were a reasonable sort, and then you pull out this kind of ass-backwards insanity.
They just used the same trailer as the one used for the Japanese announcement to announce the EU release., with the singing cut out since they never got rights to it. There was no false advertisement, do you not see that all the footage of the game was still in Japanese? Did anyone think they'd be selling a game with all its dialogue untranslated, then? It's a frickin' English subbed Japanese advert.
On top of that, it's a port of an already released game. Which did not have dual audio. There is no reason to think they'd have added it if they didn't specifically say so. |
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He's the reason why the miasma appeared again.
He must be stooped.
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| rothcol_shepard wrote: | | Paying $80 for a game is ridiculous. No way am I supporting that. |
Then don't play any games~ ohohoho~
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| Arrei wrote: | Goddamn it, rothcol. I'd thought you were a reasonable sort, and then you pull out this kind of ass-backwards insanity.
They just used the same trailer as the one used for the Japanese announcement to announce the EU release., with the singing cut out since they never got rights to it. There was no false advertisement, do you not see that all the footage of the game was still in Japanese? Did anyone think they'd be selling a game with all its dialogue untranslated, then? It's a frickin' English subbed Japanese advert.
On top of that, it's a port of an already released game. Which did not have dual audio. There is no reason to think they'd have added it if they didn't specifically say so. |
But it's not JUST a subtitled copy of the Japanese trailer.
Also, I have at least 10 localized games that contain both Japanese and English audio AND text.
Seeing US/EU games that let you set it to full 100% Japanese is actually not uncommon.
For example, Star Ocean 4 on Xbox 360 was English dub and text only. Here is the ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ywY4S5Q0MM
Completely in English. It does nothing to suggest otherwise.
The PS3 version on the other hand let you select between English and Japanese text and audio. Here is the PS3 trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2yJjGDn0CI
The US version of the game has EVERYTHING advertised in the trailer.
So, yes, it is quite reasonable to see the trailer for Abyss and expect these things since its an OFFICIAL EU trailer showing them.
Advertisement for a specific version should ONLY show footage from that specific version. Showing it having something it does not have is false advertisement by definition.
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