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Thank you Flamfas!
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| Flamfas wrote: | http://www.shacknews.com/article/77465/tales-producer-japan-going-back-to-roots-avoiding-westernization-of
Baba talking about Japanese games "slowly making a resurgence." Hoping that he's right. |
Sorry for quoting an old post but Baba say's "With regards to the Tales franchise, we've never made an effort to 'westernize' it," If this was true why do they change the original Japanese openings then? Especially back then when they were changed to orchestral music with sounds effects...
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Probably because of licensing.
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Wit Studio, a subsidary of Production IG, does the illustrations for Card Evolve.
Yuri and Sophie will be featured on the next cover of TalesMag in their school costumes. tales of school get hyped
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Crystal Power wrote: | | Sorry for quoting an old post but Baba say's "With regards to the Tales franchise, we've never made an effort to 'westernize' it," If this was true why do they change the original Japanese openings then? Especially back then when they were changed to orchestral music with sounds effects... |
What he meant by not "westernizing" is that the games are developed with appealing to Japan in mind and that they don't factor in appealing to NA/EU when they originally develop the games. i.e. they don't throw in western tropes to appeal to our audiences (loads of guns, open world setup, etc.).
When they localize it, of course they are westernizing it to a certain degree; they change the language.
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They pretty much don't want their games turning into Skyrim or Fallout 3.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Flamfas wrote: | | Crystal Power wrote: | | Sorry for quoting an old post but Baba say's "With regards to the Tales franchise, we've never made an effort to 'westernize' it," If this was true why do they change the original Japanese openings then? Especially back then when they were changed to orchestral music with sounds effects... |
What he meant by not "westernizing" is that the games are developed with appealing to Japan in mind and that they don't factor in appealing to NA/EU when they originally develop the games. i.e. they don't throw in western tropes to appeal to our audiences (loads of guns, open world setup, etc.).
When they localize it, of course they are westernizing it to a certain degree; they change the language. |
Oh I see, well that explains that, thanks! But honestly I wished they's just use the original openings. I don't mind using English versions, or instrumental (Abyss and Radiant Mythology). It's the orchestral w/sound effect openings I just really DON'T like. And besides wouldn't it be cheaper to just keep the Japanese openings, versus re-singing them into English or Orchestral versions...?
And please don't think I'm bashing the orchestral openings if you like them. I'm just saying my opinion, they're terrible imo. Wish I could enjoy them 
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How a game-mechanic like "open world" being considered as western? I can understand story tropes for cultural purposes, but Japan did (and doing) open world games too.
For them is really this risky adding such mechanic to the next games of the series?
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| Crystal Power wrote: | | And besides wouldn't it be cheaper to just keep the Japanese openings, versus re-singing them into English or Orchestral versions...? |
Not necessarily. Depends on the licensing fees. It's not because it's "already there" that bringing it to another region is free. Same with the original voice track.
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| DeViB wrote: | How a game-mechanic like "open world" being considered as western? I can understand story tropes for cultural purposes, but Japan did (and doing) open world games too.
For them is really this risky adding such mechanic to the next games of the series? |
It's not so much risky as changing the appeal of the game. They want to make the games for the same people.
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| Yume Hanabi wrote: | | Crystal Power wrote: | | And besides wouldn't it be cheaper to just keep the Japanese openings, versus re-singing them into English or Orchestral versions...? |
Not necessarily. Depends on the licensing fees. It's not because it's "already there" that bringing it to another region is free. Same with the original voice track. |
I see, so would it be cheaper to re-sing the openings in English? There's just some Japanese artist who can't sing English like Ayumi so that could become a problem. As for the dual audio I don't think that is needed to be honest and the English voices has been pretty good!
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| CyborgZeta wrote: | | Archer wrote: | even better, Tales x Fire Emblem
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At least Tales x Fire Emblem would make some sense.
In fact, I'm surprised they didn't do that instead. |
Tales x Lucky Star would be great.
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| Flamfas wrote: | | What he meant by not "westernizing" is that the games are developed with appealing to Japan in mind and that they don't factor in appealing to NA/EU when they originally develop the games |
Pretty much Squeenix and Capcom. |
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Popularity poll in from Viva Tales of!
http://tokkurin.net/lite/archives/50812129.html
I will need confirmation on this, but I think the top 5 are
Yuri
Ludger
Asbel
Jude
Luke
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