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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if the new artes actually perform well, but it's clear that they're at least supposed to be good based on TP cost. Neige Storm is her most expensive arte, and Ice Fleur is hovering right around the same cost range as Ocean Belle Reine and Vortex Bal. Diamant Ring isn't far behind.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

venus rouge best rouge

glory and a huge damage buff, the only downside being glory (take increased damage)

i wonder if they managed to mess up the pros/cons of using such artes in this version?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last set.

Beryl
Code:
RETAINED
Panic Cream        パニックくりぃむ
Orao Rush          おらおRUSH
Dizzy Typhoon      でいじータイフーン
Breed Monster      ブリッドもんすたぁ
Guru Guru Ribbon   ぐるぐるリボン
Glorious Arch      ぐろりあすアーチ
Chire Chire Sand   ちれちれサンド
Slash Colors       スラッシュからあす
Sharpness          シャープネス
Barrier            バリアー
Astion             アスティオン
Resist             レジスト
Ice Needle         アイスニードル
Embrace End        インブレイスエンド
Massive Rock       マッシブロック
Ground Dasher      グランドダッシャー
Shadow Edge        シャドウエッジ
Negative Gate      ネガティブゲイ
Pikohan            ピコハン
Piko Piko Hammer   ピコピコハンマー
Meteor Swarm       メテオスウォーム

GAINED
Flip Brush         ふりっぷブラシ
Spin Tornado       スピンとるね~ど
Moesaka Ribbon     もえさかリボン
Crush Eclair       クラッシュえくれぇる
Noir Sphere        のわーるスフィア
Spread             スプレッド
Maelstrom          メイルシュトローム
Stone Blast        ストーンブラスト
Rock Break         ロックブレイク
Lightning          ライトニング
Spark Web          スパークウェブ
Thunder Blade      サンダーブレード
Indignation        インディグネイション
Demon's Lance      デモンズランス

LOST
Hanama Loop        はなまLOOP
Splash             スプラッシュ
Ray Needle         レイニードル
Aqua Geyser        アクアゲイザー
Grave              グレイブ
Spike Stone        スパイクストーン
Stone Wall         ストーンウォール
Dead Soul          デッドソウル
Plaque Maggots     プラークマゴッツ
---Combination artes---
Resshintenshou     烈震天衝
Ooranikku Spin     お~らにっくスピン
Add Pressure       アドプレッシャー
Ignite Prison      イグニートプリズン
Raging Mist        レイジングミスト
Kochi Kochi Hammer コチコチハンマー
Gravity            グラビティ
Absolute           アブソリュート


Kunzite
Code:
RETAINED
Majinken           魔神剣
Kogahazan          虎牙破斬
Rekkuuzan          裂空斬
Majinken Shouga    魔神剣・翔牙
Majinrenzan        魔神連斬
Kuuha Souryuushou  空破双龍掌
Kuuha Senmeidan    空破穿命弾
Shinkuuretsuzan    真空裂斬
Jaryuukouga        蛇龍交牙
Senkuu Kyoueijin   穿空鏡影陣
Jaei Resshuugaku   蛇影裂襲顎
Shun'eisatsu       瞬影刹
Shiryuu Sen'eizan  刺龍穿影斬
Makuuga            魔空牙
Mashoujin          魔瘴刃
Spoil Weapon       スポイル・ウェポン
Spoil Armor        スポイル・アーマー
Spoil Mind         スポイル・マインド
Spoil Resist       スポイル・レジスト
Wind Cutter        ウインドカッタ
Cross Wind         クロスウィンド
Air Thrust         エアスラスト
Shadow Edge        シャドウエッジ
Negative Gate      ネガティブゲイト
Black Hole         ブラックホール

GAINED
Senpuuretsuzan     旋風裂斬
Hakyousen          破鏡閃
Retsu Majinken     烈・魔神剣
Hakyousousen       破鏡双閃
Shun'eijin         瞬影刃
Shinkuuretsuzan    真空裂斬
Hakyou Fuumasen    破鏡封魔閃
Senpuu Kuuretsuzan 旋風空裂斬
Demon's Lance      デモンズランス

LOST
Kouryuugaren       咬龍牙連
Garyuu Messhousen  餓龍滅衝旋
Stream Arrow       ストリームアロー
Dead Soul          デッドソウル
Plaque Maggots     プラークマゴッツ
---Combination artes---
Sen'en Reppajin    閃闇裂破刃
Senraiga           穿雷牙
Noire Perle        ノワールペルル
Bloody Howling     ブラッディハウリング
Demon's Lance      デモンズランス
Gravity            グラビティ
Absolute           アブソリュート

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Hanama Loop was nice but eh she gained some nice spells, all her lost spells are a bit useless too since the 3 spell users in the party can use then on the DS version.

Kunzite didn't lost much either besides Garyuu Messhousen, I'm cool with his moveset too.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not even sure what her other spells are since all you need are ice needles and high level spells
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh ugh ugh I am still really hating the stuff taken out of the script, the mist village hill scene changes were completely ugh, though still a good scene, not as good as it used to be.

On a bright side, really liking the brand new stuff, like what they did with Cal so far, though I wish they'd kept all his lines when he thought he'd never see Shing again, those were some good lines.

The arte list changes are pretty good in my opinion except for the complete rehaul of the spells, all of the original ones are gone and this slightly displeases me. I'm glad Innes got some Rouges <3 Everyone performs pretty well so far, though I'm hoping Cal gets more cool artes, its mostly either beams of lights, his two slash thing in variation, or ascending/descending strikes. Everyone is good at combo'ing.

I'm not sure if I said this in the last post I made, but they really did nerf the majority of the dungeons, but they still kept the pacing well enough that I'm at a good level right now. Though the game does feel shorter because of all the lines they randomly took out of each scene with nothing to replace them.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual arte lists have been uploaded onto Aselia, complete as of today (after much delay because irl sucks). The lists are still missing damage data which can't be found anywhere at the moment, and it's always possible that additional artes and dual hi ougi can be discovered. Note that this does not mark changes between each release of Hearts, but the existing lists can be compared, and Lunar's lists earlier in this thread show the changes very well.

http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Shing_Meteoryte:_Artes
http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Amber_Hearts:_Artes
http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Jadeite_Hearts:_Artes
http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Beryl_Benito:_Artes
http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Innes_Lorenz:_Artes
http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Kunzite:_Artes
http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Calcedny_Arcome:_Artes
http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/ToH-R_-_Galando_Grinus:_Artes
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since they seem to have split normal and elemental physical artes in this game, I assume they also use different stats? Do elemental physical artes take 50% of both P.ATK and M.ATK?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OLHearts wrote:
Since they seem to have split normal and elemental physical artes in this game, I assume they also use different stats? Do elemental physical artes take 50% of both P.ATK and M.ATK?


Funny because it doesn't really matter. Just lvl 5x and you'll win regardless Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeahh, the misty hill scene was COMPLETELY butchered... i really have no idea why they changed it, because i cannot imagine any single human being of sound mind on the planet earth in 2013 could view both scenes and think the reimagined version is not a disaster in comparison

btw the ending credits list his name, in english, as Calcedony
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there's a combo command in the game or what?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arn wrote:
So there's a combo command in the game or what?

Why do tales games even have this? You only ever need to use like 3 moves.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think 8 is better if you want to pull off combos on your own.
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Aggression wrote:
Arn wrote:
So there's a combo command in the game or what?

Why do tales games even have this? You only ever need to use like 3 moves.
I don't think we play the same game.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aggression wrote:
Arn wrote:
So there's a combo command in the game or what?

Why do tales games even have this? You only ever need to use like 3 moves.


I.. never thought... such question would be... asked

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