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rothcol_shepard
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| Arrei wrote: | | That's a case of a mistranslation, or the translation being TOO literal. Because there's no "th" sound in Japanese, they took "Aerisu" and made it "Aeris". |
Believe me, I know Japanese lacks the TH sound.
Both Aeris and Aerith are acceptable translations.
It's the fact that they use one in one game, and the other in other games.
It's the inconsistency I don't like. I'd be fine with either if they stuck with it.
They also changed ティナ/Tina in FF6 to Terra in the US version, but I don't see them randomly changing it back to Tina in later games. Or any of the other character names through the series that got changed.
Aeris/Aerith seems to be the magical one they decided to change their minds on.
Anyway, I'll stop talking about Final Fantasy in a Tales of forum, lol. |
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Colour
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| rothcol_shepard wrote: | | Anyway, I'll stop talking about Final Fantasy in a Tales of forum, lol. |
Can you stop talking about KH too while you're at it?
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Suikoden2
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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How about just keeping everything Tales related. D:
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rothcol_shepard
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Arrei wrote: | | So we were just one mistranslation away from calling her Judas. Kinda funny to think about. |
Judas would actually be ジューダス。
Judith is ジュディス。
They are more different in Japanese than you would think.
It would actually be quite a fail mistranslation, lol.
That reminds me that I still have to play Tales of Destiny 2 at some point....it's the only one I haven't touched yet out of the older ones.
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Suikoden2
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Dice wrote: | | I have an easier time saying the former. |
Doesn't help that a lot of people played FF7 years before the name change. D:
Edit: oops just went against what I just said earlier! derp
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rothcol_shepard
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Suikoden2 wrote: | | Dice wrote: | | I have an easier time saying the former. |
Doesn't help that a lot of people played FF7 years before the name change. |
I agree. Since it was originally spelled as Aeris in the main game everyone played, they should have kept it as Aeris in all future games, even if that wasn't the original intended spelling. |
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Arrei
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| rothcol_shepard wrote: | | It's the inconsistency I don't like. I'd be fine with either if they stuck with it. |
I'm just trying to say the original translation was the result of an unintentionally flawed translation that followed the source too closely, so all those future appearances as "Aerith" is the actual "correct" translation. Tina -> Terra on the other hand, is an intentional change meant to preserve the exoticism of her name in both English and Japanese, as you've probably heard before, so naturally they'd be consistent with that one.
So as far as Tales goes, I don't think we've had any translation hiccups with the names - any changes in names were intentional changes meant to make the name mesh better. How effective they are is up for debate. The exception to this could be characters from unlocalized games, however - translations seen in Graces' Carta cards could have just been done on the spur of the moment rather than giving each character a great deal of deliberation, meaning we could see names like Jadeite turned into Jaden should Tales of Hearts ever find its way to our shores. |
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rothcol_shepard
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Arrei wrote: | | we could see names like Jadeite turned into Jaden should Tales of Hearts ever find its way to our shores. |
Well that may happen if the Vita stops being dead on arrival outside Japan and people actually buy them.
As much as I love my Vita, it has practically no games here and barely anyone owns one. Most of the good Vita games I had to import to get. |
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Arrei
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, but the Vita sorta needs to stop being dead in its home court first. It's seeing some more sales lately, but mostly owing to otaku-targeted software.
I'm honestly kind of mystified as to why they'd pick Vita for the Reimagine series. Those graphics don't even push the 3DS' limits. |
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| Aikanaro wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=562cFe6rsc8
They uploaded Milla's video, too. |
Is Milla a robot? o.o
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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They picked Vita for Innocence because Sony. Hearts was probably too far along to switch over to 3DS, and they wanted to recycle the engine. Tempest R will probably also be on Vita to recycle.
The real question is whether they'll continue on Vita after the R series.
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rothcol_shepard
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Zappa wrote: | | Aikanaro wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=562cFe6rsc8
They uploaded Milla's video, too. |
Is Milla a robot? o.o
Where is my dual audio? :( |
In the hands of greedy Japanese copyright holders that want money for it from a company not willing to spend it. |
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Arrei
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| But was "Sony" really all there was to it? It doesn't make use of Sony's tech at all, is the thing. |
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Colour
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| Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Arrei wrote: | | But was "Sony" really all there was to it? It doesn't make use of Sony's tech at all, is the thing. |
Japanese Tales fans prefer Sony consoles. Tales never uses the full potential of its systems.
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