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Flamfas

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:39 pm Post subject: Legend of Korra |
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RIP old thread.
anyway.
DAMMIT WHEN WILL SEASON 2 START!?!? _________________

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Ruin

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Amon should come back as Ghost Amon _________________
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Colour

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I honestly forgot this show existed. _________________ Icon via iconography. |
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Eternity Memory

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm probably going to wait until it's confirmed that S2's character development and handling of whatever issues it lays out aren't complete ass.
S1 let me down so hard I still feel the bruises whenever I think about it. ): _________________
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Dice

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I think Season 1 did well enough in the time frame it had. Looking forward to some S2 even if for nothing other than elemental ass-kicking. _________________ http://dice9999.deviantart.com/
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Eternity Memory

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Eh, I wanted to be more forgiving due to the handful of episodes the show was first given, but I'm pretty sure the creators knew from the outset about their initial time constraints. They should have been able to adjust the plot better than the resulting hot mess that ended up being the latter half of the season. Also, I would throw something in here about British television often having little more than half a dozen episodes per season to work with in their shows, but I don't know anything about British shows beyond that fact so I can't really reference anything.
But I do agree that I'd probably be more or less satisfied with a season mostly devoted to bending battles.
Anything to keep the focus off of any more terrible love triangle sub-plots. _________________
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Flamfas

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 6:03 am Post subject: |
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The only real disappointment I had with S1 was the ending. They could have cut the episode off like 2 minutes earlier, and everything would have been fine. I just didn't like how Korra was all OH AVATAR STATE NOW despite never really making that spiritual connection.
Well, that, and the airbending. I don't mind that she airbended after her bending was taken away; saw that coming before the episode even aired. Makes sense sort of too; she hadn't achieved airbending before then, so how could Amon take it away?
But what DID bother me is how she first airbended. Let's be real, she was trying to firebend with a fist like that. It was an un-airbender-ish move. They could have done a (somewhat cliche) flashback to Korra "moving like a leaf" and then having her be able to successfully airbend. That would have made way more sense. _________________

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Sânta Claus

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Flamfas wrote: | | But what DID bother me is how she first airbended. Let's be real, she was trying to firebend with a fist like that. It was an un-airbender-ish move. They could have done a (somewhat cliche) flashback to Korra "moving like a leaf" and then having her be able to successfully airbend. That would have made way more sense. | I think it's meant to represent that she's still got that brute-force mentality. She loses all her powers, she's a scared animal put into a corner. It would only make sense that she'd use something that reinforces offensive power.
Of course, that's my problem with S1. They did too many things. Love arc: completed. Amon arc: completed. Korra learning to be like an airbender (but then not because she's not using airbending moves to airbend?): completed(?) So, what are they gonna do for S2? Reflect on how unairbendy she is, when they already established that whole thing during the "move like a leaf" thing Flamfas mentioned? Do the whole "does firebender boy love Korra", when we already did that whole thing last season? Who's gonna be the main antagonist?? We didn't establish anyone being a threat in the first season except for Amon!! And that douche is dead!!!
I dunno. I have high hopes and **** for S2 because I really do enjoy Avatar (and if you tell anyone I know in real life, I will end you). I just see too many flaws already coming to service. _________________
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Xandy

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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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My more major issue with it was that for someone who's show got titled 'a legend', she hasn't done much... legendary things. Aang is a legend. Aang went through a ridiculous amount to learn the other elements, and what he did as a whole... This was meant to be 12 episodes as a whole, and they planned on making Korra a legend with...
...Korra went through some love struggles and picked a boring douchebag for her boyfriend when she should've just gone with the earthbender (whoops) and Iroh shows up and does some badass things, and in the end, Tarrlok finished it, and the short amount of time that it was established was far more interesting than what most of the show had bothered to do. There's nothing interesting about Korra, her development was forced and in the end she still didn't learn anything.
...I felt really, really underwhelmed. 12 episodes, although an incredibly short span of time, could've still had time to establish something really epic if they weren't trying so hard to drive a boring, uninteresting love plot.
I had problems with how the show was handled, and in all honesty, have no plans on tuning in on season 2. I'll let Tumblr spoil me before I bother deciding if i should put my hope in it again. Sataka also points out how I can't see this continuing in the first place when you can tell this was planned to only be one season (they really didn't think this through!)
There's am essay on Tumblr by a user named Chirart that directly addresses my millions of problems with the show. I'm still angry. The first three episodes got me so excited and then... sigh |
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Eternity Memory

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| Hiccup wrote: |
There's am essay on Tumblr by a user named Chirart that directly addresses my millions of problems with the show. I'm still angry. The first three episodes got me so excited and then... sigh |
I read that. It pretty much hit the nail on the head. Also she is a fantastic artist.
Judging by S2's book title the plot's probably going to focus on the Spirit World, and that kind of makes me wonder what's going to happen to the bender vs. non-bender tension in the city. I really hope they aren't just going to drop it completely, because one would figure that Amon's big identity reveal would strain things to the point where there'd be threats of wide scale non-bender riots or something after all that craziness went down. As far as I remember the resolution certainly didn't do much to fix much of the inequality balance between the two sides. Like, if S2 opened up and there was only a few references to the whole incident and the city people are all weirdly complacent now that Amon's gone that'd leave a really bad taste in my mouth.
On the other hand I'm just pessimistically speculating on the worst case plot scenario with huge gaps in my memory of how S1's finale actually played out. There's no way S2 can weasel out of discussing the aftermath of Amon's lies. _________________
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Flamfas

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Also, with the public knowing Amon is a waterbender, I wonder if other waterbenders will attempt to mimic his techniques? It wouldn't be too unheard of. _________________

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Skythe

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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aren't they having like spirit monsters in s2
also airbender>korra always and forever
I like korra but goddamn the pacing, love triangle, slo-mo in every **** fight, fartbending/Tenzin's kids, hurgh _________________
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Slivius

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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The main antagonist in S2 is going to be a dark spirit, aptly called "The Dark Spirit", with, iirc, the same voice actress Azula had. According to the official fan wiki at least.
Also, it seems the main group is going to physically invade the spirit world through one of the poles. No idea how that is going to work out, or what that has got to do with Republic City.
Maybe less and less benders are being born because spirits are hogging the source of their power, or maybe it turns out Amon learned his chi-blocking abilities from the Dark Spirit, and there's now more people like him walking around, taking people's bending away. Who knows?
Could someone link me to Chirart's rant on Korra? I can't find it. _________________ Also known as Sliv, Slivvie, Quilvius, Slivendiferious, slivijizzisious and many other names
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Eternity Memory

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Dice

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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Eternity Memory wrote: | | [url=http://chirart.tumblr.com/post/25991175534/how-you-can-have-a-bunch-of-great-ideas-but-still-****]Hella long, but here is Chirart's rant.[/url] |
It's a good argument. I don't go into The Legend of Korra with the same passion and fervor for it, I take it an episode at a time and enjoy what I get, but the plot point here are extremely significant.
I was particularly amused with how Amon's original backstory would have been a better sell for the Equalists than the one he sputtered out. I definitely agree with Mako being a terrible character, certainly Bolin was the reigning underdog of the show, but was too focused on giving a sort of "ideal manly-man" for her to date than someone compatible... But, I thought the romance in The Last Airbender just as forced and hokey.
Odd to think I like a pacifistic vegetarian more than an ass-kicking female, but Korra's story just couldn't live up to the same endearing tale as Aangs did.
I wouldn't think it "a thing", but unlike most media, they create it with a central theme and message, something to reflect and play out on; watching Korra you're left with plot, no character resolve, no conviction, no growth, just characters doing what they do for the plot laid out. Korra learns air bending and hits the avatar state through no real power/effort of her own, and there's really no "take home message" in that.
I definitely agree with the "lost bending bit" being treated to a punishment worse than death. Granted, if I lost the ability to manipulate balls of fire, I'd be pretty gloomy myself.
I was sorta surprised s/he mentioned Asami and Bei Fong only once and it's in minor praises. I was cheering for Asami, actually. Poor girl deserves better, she does nothing to warrant being two-timed and betrays her father to, in some degree, join the team her boyfriend is on. _________________ http://dice9999.deviantart.com/
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