Tales of Xillia for NA & EU 2013

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[Tenshigami]

Holy cow and I thought I had problems with entitlement. (Full disclosure: I do.)

A video game company just isn't going to do something they don't find profitable. The only thing we can do to convince them something is profitable is to buy the games (or similar titles) when they give us the opportunity. Beyond that we could help get the word out about said games because when they do bring us the games they don't seem to want to spend much money advertising either.



It's not so much about what they can do for us at this point, as they're currently doing more for the Tales series in the west than they have for years! It's now about what we can do for them. They've brought us two games this past year. Now 2013 is almost upon us, and they're bringing us another game this coming year. The ball is now in our court.
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[Yume Hanabi]

Yeah idk what he's complaining about, we're currently getting every new big title little by little...
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[Crahlo]

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[siphry]

This whole conversation is a big shining example of why Tales fans are just out of control sometimes (not saying all of them are, because a grand majority of the frequent posters here are quite reasonable...at least that I'VE seen). Entitled, whiny, and have absolutely no understanding of business.


The only glimmer of hope I have for Tales is that Baba said that, if they have the time and the money, he is interested in bringing more Tales to the west (including older ones I believe). But without money then NB West really can't justify it. So all we can do, as fans, is buy the game and push the games ourselves since NB aint gonna do it for us. :/ silly Tales fans are silly.
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[CyborgZeta]

Titles remaining Japan only is not exclusive to Tales.

Valkyria Chronicles 3, Ace Attorney Investigations 2...there are plenty of other titles that haven't been brought over despite prior releases.

It's easy to badmouth the companies and blame them. The truth is that games like these often aren't profitable for companies to localize; as already pointed out.

Games like Tales just don't attract a lot of sales. At the least, not enough sales to satisfy most companies. We're lucky to have gotten Graces at all; not to mention Xillia.
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"Blacker than a moonless night, hotter and more bitter than Hell itself...That is coffee." - Godot

[Arrei]

The only trouble is, when it comes to the industry at large it seems like that number of sales needed to "satisfy" a company just keeps getting higher and higher. You even have companies that release big sellers going under because the game just cost too much to make even with those sales.


The question then is, does that really apply to our situation? Because if a series doesn't get localized, but continues to make new entries, then that suggests the sales from their home market are enough to satisfy them. And it is true that translating and voicing costs a lot less than the actual development of the game.

So while it's still speculation at best, judging by how other localized series do I would imagine it could only be extra money unless the game is really a total bomb, so where's the expectation of having X sales come from? It surely can't be the usual culprit of dwindling sales that hits some other series, because the series in the west went from being a cult hit with Symphonia, to selling much less on PS2 (by fault of their own choices, I would wager), to selling less than it did on GCN but more than on PS2 with Vesperia.

Now there's certainly the aspect of available manpower to think about, since they only have so many people available to do the actual translating and whatnot, and I think that's the reason the games take longer to finish localization. They have a lot of games to work on, but the game hardly counts as a high priority game they want to send out ASAP.






I still believe the series' main roadblock is the way it's been handled though. Baba's appearances in person showing off the games and Tales merch, and their efforts to reach out to the community were certainly some of the support we'd been hoping to see from them for years. But in the years between Symphonia and now we saw them pass up the perfect chance to expand to the west with the foothold they gained with Symphonia, jump around consoles from Nintendo to Sony to Microsoft to Nintendo to Sony, and show very little interest in promoting the series in general until recently.

There is only so much one can do with that background, and in the west the flame of the series dwindled as a result. Like others have said, it's now up to both the company and the fans to get that flame hale and hearty again, and I do agree we have little to work with in regards to Xillia until we get some substantial English teasers beyond just screenshots.


Aw shet, I think I rambled too long.

[JiCi]

I believe you guys misunderstood me: I'm just a regular guy who wishes the best for his favorite JRPG series. I just hate when my favorite series doesn't get the same treatment in the West as other JRPG series and I end up losing hope to ever support it adequately.

I have major concerns about Xillia 1 in the West, because that's an incomplete game, that got completed in Xillia 2, that there's no single guarantee that we'll ever see in the West. I know Baba wants to release more games in the West, but he's gonna have to please fans instead of his wallet. You can't get back fans that you lost for pissing them off, unlike money which you can get back in many, MANY other ways.