Men and Women Can't Be "Just Friends"
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:13 am    Post subject: Men and Women Can't Be "Just Friends" Reply with quote

...according to a Scientific American article. Stephen Colbert probably has the best take on it.

And here's the link to the article in question.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The results suggest large gender differences in how men and women experience opposite-sex friendships. Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite-sex friends were attracted to them—a clearly misguided belief.



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually assumed that every friendship I've had was platonic until proven otherwise.

aka I'm pretty romantically dense. >.>
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the same way, but apparently that's normal for women lol
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to that article, we can't solely because men find women sexually attractive.

Time to tell any bi males you know that they can't be friends with anyone now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toku wrote:
I've actually assumed that every friendship I've had was platonic until proven otherwise.

aka I'm pretty romantically dense. >.>


^^^ That's pretty much me.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A healthy man is focused on ensuring the continuity of the human race at all times. Take General Petraeus. Guy already had a woman, but he's so committed, so devoted to the future of our country that he mated with another as an added precaution.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't doubt that there's some truth to it, but that article doesn't actually say anything. It doesn't give any hard statistics, just vague comparisons. Men are four to ten times more likely to see romantic attraction as a benefit of friendship, but what numbers are we dealing with? 40-100% vs 10%, or 4-10% vs 1%?

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I've actually assumed that every friendship I've had was platonic until proven otherwise.

Not only this, but I find any romantic feelings actually decrease the longer I know someone as a friend. I've seriously gone from "weak crush" to "she's cute but I don't see her that way". Weird, but pretty handy!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This nonsense is what passes for scientific "study" now? All the "researchers" must be crazy hacks or bitter about rejection. You can be attracted and ignore/suppress attraction and some people are asexual. Of course there are general differences, but it's not as significant they claim.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capt. Velocity wrote:
You can be attracted and ignore/suppress attraction

I like how you call them "crazy hacks" and then end up partially agreeing with them anyway
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just said it was possible. It still would mean they can.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conn wrote:
I don't doubt that there's some truth to it, but that article doesn't actually say anything. It doesn't give any hard statistics, just vague comparisons. Men are four to ten times more likely to see romantic attraction as a benefit of friendship, but what numbers are we dealing with? 40-100% vs 10%, or 4-10% vs 1%?
Indeed. It links a research article, albeit a weak one.

The main problem with this concept is that it argues that platonic friendship isn't possible because attraction always exists. Therefore "OOPS we can't be friends because now I'm just a guy waiting for a window of opportunity to bang you!" When really, people can find each other attractive without having to be romantically interested.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to strongly disagree. I have several female friends I see as just that, friends. My best friend and confident for the past decade has been a girl and they're is not unresolved sexual tension in that friendship. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like it may just be their population that they picked, I think its interesting and on some degrees it makes sense, but I'm sure with lots of trials with more diversity we'd get results closer to what everyone is saying. I can see the gender difference in the general attraction factor, but the whole clouded conception of the others' feelings I find can go both ways, or not at all.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I doubt that anyone can deny that attraction always exist.

The problem is their "research question." If you look at the study, they didn't want to just answer the question of "Can men and women be just friends?" They wanted to prove it and so what you see happen is a classic case of selective evidence. That's why I think it's a fraudulent concept with a fraudulent scientific basis.

Also in the research article, it seems like all of the researchers are girls except for one guy. So I'm curious as to how that turned out for them. ; )
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