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Phaelin

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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: Affection Values (Spoilers) |
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Here we go, as requested (indirectly): a master list of every affection change available in the game that I have ever experienced. These values were taken directly from saved games and if it is listed here, then I personally verified it. I also list a few places where it appears like there may be an affection change but there actually isn't, just for the record. Requests are allowed; if you want to know about an event not mentioned here, feel free to ask and I will try to test it.
I should mention, if you're wondering about these numbers and how they impact the fortune teller in Triet and such, see my previous guide on the subject.
~~~ SYLVARANT ~~~
Game start: Initial affection values- Start of game : Colette +500
(Note: Unless you purchase the "Affection" option from the GRADE shop, Colette starts the game automatically at 500 affection. Everyone else starts at 0.) Iselia: In classroom- "It's research." : Genis +120
- "Okay, fine." : no change
Iselia: Talk with the Pastor in the school or outside Martel Temple- "I'm going too." : Colette +120, Genis +60
- "I'll wait for you." : Genis -60, Raine +60
Martel Temple: Kratos joins- "What did you say?!" : Kratos -60
- "...Gotcha." : Kratos +60
Martel Temple: After Colette receives her crystal- First person spoken to : (Character) +60
- Skip them all and just step onto the transporter : no change
Iselia Human Ranch: Talking with Marble- "Fine" : Genis +60
- "But..." : Genis -60
Iselia Human Ranch: Desians see Marble- "...Okay." : Genis -60
- "But..." : Genis +60
Dirk's House: When Colette asks to go on the terrace- "Sure." : Colette +120
- "Just a minute." : no change
Dirk's House: If you said "Just a minute" to Colette- Talk to Genis first : Genis +60
- Talk to Raine first : Raine +60
- Talk to Kratos first : Kratos +180
- Talk to Colette first : Colette +120
Triet: After Sylvarant Base, check Colette's door- "Go in." : Colette +60
- "Let's not." : no change
Triet: After Sylvarant Base, search Genis on his bed- "Pinch his nose!" : no change
- "Let's not wake him." : Genis +60
Triet: After Sylvarant Base, after giving Raine her Key Crest- Talk to Raine again : Raine +60
Triet: After Sylvarant Base, seeing Kratos going outside- "Let's follow him." : Kratos +120
- "Let's leave him alone." : no change
Triet: Camping after the first seal, first person spoken to...- Talk to Colette first : Colette +60
- "It was missing something." : Genis +60
- "It tasted pretty good." : Genis -60
- "Colette is Colette." : Raine +60
- "She's just becoming an angel, right?" : no change
- "The village was my fault." : Kratos +60
- "I guess you're right." : Kratos +120
(Note: Only the first person spoken to is affected in any way--unless you said "she's just becoming an angel" to Raine, in which case the second character you talk to is affected instead.) Ossa Trail: Sheena falls in the hole- "Leave her alone. She's an enemy." : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine +60, Kratos +60
- "Well...I do feel a bit sorry for her." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -60, Kratos -60, Sheena +180
Izoold: Lyla asks you to deliver a letter- "Okay." : no change
- "No." : no change
Hima: Sophia asks if you are Sheena's friends- "Yes." : Sheena +60
- "You've got to be kidding!" : Sheena -60
Hima: Sophia asks you to get Boltzman's Book- "All right." : Colette +180, Genis +120, Kratos +180, Sheena +180
- "Okay, but..." : Genis +180, Raine +180, Kratos +60
Palmacosta: Kratos offers to train Lloyd- "Nah, never mind." : Kratos -120
- "Please." : Kratos +120
Palmacosta: Genis's test- Get all 3 questions correct : Genis +180
- Get 2 questions correct : Genis +60
- Get 1 question correct : Genis -60
- Get all 3 questions wrong : Genis -180
(Note: Accepting the challenge straight off or declining and then going back and doing it later does not matter.) House of Salvation: Find Sheena praying- "Speak to her." : no change
- "Leave her alone." : Sheena +180
Luin: Find Sheena playing with some kids- "You're actually pretty nice." : Raine -60, Sheena +120
- "You're kind of cute." : Colette -60, Sheena +180
Palmacosta Region: When hearing about Chocolat's kidnapping- "Yeah, okay." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena +60
- "Releasing the seals comes first." : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine +120, Sheena -120
(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.) Palmacosta Human Ranch: Upon learning about the trap set by Dorr- "Let's go attack!" : Colette +120, Genis +120, Raine -120, Kratos -120, Sheena +180
- "Let's return to Palmacosta." : Colette +60, Raine +120, Kratos +120, Sheena -120
(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.) Palmacosta: Dorr asks Lloyd to save his wife- "Okay." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Sheena +60
- "That I can't do." : Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena +60
(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.) House of Salvation: Searching for the Spiritua Statue- "I'll go get it." : Colette +120, Genis +60, Raine -120, Kratos -60, Sheena +120
- "The problem is the geyser." : Colette +60, Raine +120, Kratos +60
(Note: Sheena is affected only if she's in the party.) Thoda Geyser: Obtaining the Spiritua Statue- Succeed : Colette +180, Genis +180, Raine +180, Kratos +180, Sheena +180
- Fail (Colette) : Colette +120, Genis -60, Raine -60, Sheena -60
- Fail (Genis) : Colette -60, Genis +120, Raine -180, Sheena -60
- Fail (Kratos) : Kratos +120, Sheena -60
- Fail (Raine) : Colette -60, Genis -120, Raine +120, Sheena -60
- Fail (Sheena) : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine -60, Sheena +120
(Note: Upon failure, the character who rescues Lloyd is the one who currently has the highest affection out of the above five.)
(Note: Sheena is affected regardless of whether she is in the party or not.) Asgard: Kratos offers to train Lloyd- "Nah, I'll pass." : Kratos -60
- "Yeah, I'll go." : Kratos +180
Luin: Find Sheena in the devastated Luin- Encounter Sheena : Sheena +180
Luin: Sheena offers to join the party- "Okay." : Colette +60, Sheena +60
- "No." : Colette -60, Raine +120, Sheena -60
(Note: Sheena will only offer to join if, after the +180 boost above, she's in your top three (not counting Tethe'alla characters) in terms of affection.) Luin: Discussion after learning how Exspheres are created- "All right." : Colette +180, Genis +180, Raine +120, Kratos +60, Sheena +180
- "No!" : Kratos +180
Luin: Kratos offers to train Lloyd- "No, it's okay." : Kratos -180
- "Yeah, you're right." : Kratos +180
Asgard Human Ranch: Team selection (upon confirmation of team)- Infiltration team : (Character) +60
- Deactivation team : (Character) -60 (Kratos gets -180)
(Note: Sheena gets -60 for being on the deactivation team despite the extra dialogue you get for putting her there.) Tower of Mana: Team selection (only applies to the first time you pick)- Person chosen to accompany Lloyd and Colette : (Character) +60
- Three people left behind : (Character) -60
(Note: This affection impact does not occur if Sheena is not in the party when you come here.) Asgard: Find the Fake Chosen group at the dais- "Well, all right." : Colette +180, Genis -60, Raine -120, Kratos -120, Sheena +120, Zelos -60, Presea -180, Regal +120
- "No." : Colette -60, Genis +120, Raine +180, Kratos +120, Sheena -60, Zelos +60, Presea +120, Regal -120
(Note: Only those characters who are actually in the party at the time are affected.) Hima: Before going to the Tower of Salvation- First person spoken to : (Character) +60
- Skip everyone and just talk to Colette : Colette +60
Hima: Kratos offers to train Lloyd- "Nah, I don't need it." : Kratos -60
- "Please." : Kratos +180
Hima: Choose who to ride the dragon with- "I think Genis." : Colette +60, Genis +60
- "I think the Professor." : Colette -60, Raine +60
- "I think Sheena." : Colette -120, Sheena +120
~~~ TETHE'ALLA (AND BEYOND) ~~~
Meltokio: Raine makes a proposal to Zelos and the Pope- "All right. That's fine." : Colette +120, Genis -120, Raine +120, Zelos +180, Presea -60
- "No, we can't do that." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -120, Zelos -120, Presea +120
Meltokio: The party stays overnight at Zelos's mansion- Talk to party members : no change (for the record)
Sybak: Talk to the woman about Kratos's movements- "Who cares." : Genis +60, Raine -60, Kratos -60, Sheena +60, Zelos +180, Presea +60, Regal -60
- "Yeah." : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena -60, Zelos -180, Presea -60, Regal +60
Ozette: Man near the item shop insults Presea- "I understand." : Raine +120, Zelos +120, Presea +180, Regal +120
- "How can you say that?!" : Colette +120, Genis +120, Sheena +120, Presea +180
Ozette: Presea asks to accompany the group- "Of course." : Genis +60, Raine +60, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +180, Regal +180
- "What do you think, guys?" : Genis +120, Raine +180, Zelos +180, Presea +60, Regal +60
Ozette: Talk to woman in inn who mentions Kratos- "I'm concerned about this." : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine +120, Kratos +180, Sheena -60, Zelos -180, Presea -60, Regal +60
- "It won't do us any good to worry about it." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -60, Kratos -180, Sheena +60, Zelos +180, Presea +60
Mizuho: Vice-Chief Tiga tells Sheena to form a pact with Volt- Talk to party members : no change (for the record)
Temple of Earth: Gnomelette wants Curry- Person who cooks : (Character) +120
Temple of Ice: Genis asks Lloyd three questions about the Celsius' Tear- Celsius' Tear quiz : no change (really!)
Altessa's House: Mithos asks to accompany the group- "All right, come on." : Colette +60, Genis +180, Raine +180, Sheena -60, Zelos -120, Presea -180, Regal +120
- "No, it's just too dangerous." : Colette +120, Genis -180, Raine -120, Sheena +120, Zelos +180, Presea +180, Regal -60
Altamira: Regal asks to accompany the group- "Of course." : Colette +120, Sheena +120, Zelos +120, Regal +180
- "If that's all right with Presea." : Genis +120, Raine +120, Presea +180
Meltokio: Enter the coliseum to save Kate- Enter as Lloyd : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +60, Kratos +180, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +60
- Enter as someone else : (Character who entered) +180
Thoda Dock: Candy asks questions about Regal- "Leave them alone." : Regal -60
- "Save him." + "Lloyd." : Regal +180
- "Save him." + "Zelos." : Regal +120
- "Save him." + "Regal." + "President of a large company." + "Tofu." + "in Tethe'alla." + "60 billion Gald." + "Alicia." : Regal +600 (!)
- "Save him." + "Regal." + "the Pope." + "Cucumber." + "in a dwarf's house." + "Secret." + "Presea." : Regal +0
(Note: I haven't yet mapped out all of the other choices, but I have listed the maximum and minimum extremes as far as I have seen.) Iselia Human Ranch: Team selection (upon confirmation of team)- Reactor team : (Character) +60 (Kratos gets +120)
- Rescue team : no change
Dirk's House: Talk to your highest-affection character on the terrace- Talk to party members : no change (for the record)
Sybak: In the Archives looking for information on Colette's illness- "I trust Kratos." : Colette +120, Genis +120, Raine +120, Kratos +180, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +60
- "There is a possibility." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +60, Kratos +60, Sheena +120, Zelos +180, Presea +120, Regal +120
Altamira: Rosa asks you to give some money to Joshua- "I'm sorry, but we can't." : no change
- "All right." : no change
Sybak: Talking to Joshua about Rosa- "Tell the truth" : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine -60, Sheena +60, Zelos -60, Presea -60, Regal +60
- "Keep quiet" : Colette +120, Genis -60, Raine +60, Sheena -60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +120
Altessa's House: Raine collapses- "Let them do what they want." : Raine +60
- "I'd better keep tabs on them." : Genis +180
Altessa's House: Search the Exsphere on the table- Learn about Exspheres : Presea +180
Meltokio: Find Kratos near the castle- "Yeah, you're right." : Colette +180, Genis +120, Raine +120, Kratos -180, Sheena +180, Zelos +180, Presea +120, Regal +180
- "We can't just ignore it." : Colette +60, Genis -120, Raine +60, Kratos +180, Sheena -60, Zelos -180, Presea -60, Regal +60
Meltokio: Talk to Janet- "Is something wrong?" : Presea +120
- "Let's go." : no change
Sybak: Talk to Horace- "Do you really want to leave it like that?" : Presea +120
- "Okay, let's get going." : no change
Meltokio: Talk to Janet after talking to Horace- "Presea..." : Presea +240
- "Let's go." : no change
Exire: Encounter Virginia- Learn about Virginia : Raine +180
Meltokio: Princess Hilda is kidnapped- Rescue Princess Hilda : Zelos +180
Sybak: Boy from slums has lost his mother- Help the lost boy : Zelos +180
Mizuho: Duel with Kuchinawa- "Kuchinawa was working with the Pope." : Sheena -180
- "I don't know anything about it." : Sheena +180
Mizuho: Duel with Kuchinawa- First party member spoken to in town : (Character) +60
- Skip them all and just talk to Orochi : no change
Mizuho: Lose the duel with Kuchinawa- Lose to Kuchinawa : Sheena -180
(Editor's Note: I have no idea why Sheena loses respect for Lloyd when she's the one who lost the duel...) Mizuho: Win the duel with Kuchinawa- "Stop him" : Colette +120, Genis +120, Raine +60, Sheena +180, Zelos +180, Presea +60, Regal +120
- "Don't stop him" : Colette -120, Genis -60, Raine +180, Sheena +120, Zelos -120, Presea +120, Regal +180
(Note: Kratos is unaffected even if he's in the party when you do this. Zelos IS affected even if he's NOT in the party when you do this...) Flanoir Inn Decision: Pick a soul mate- Character(s) you reject (if any) : (Character) -180
- Person you go outside with : (Character) +180
- Last character you go out with automatically if you reject first three : no change
(Note: If you reject the first three and go out with the fourth, that character does not gain the +180 boost for being picked. To get the boost you have to get them into the top three and deliberately pick them.)
- Pick anyone BUT Kratos : Zelos +180
- Pick Kratos : Zelos -180
(Note: Zelos gains/loses regardless of whether you picked someone deliberately or went outside automatically with the fourth.)
(Note: If you pick Zelos, he gains both of these, for a total of +360. If you reject Zelos and pick Kratos, Zelos gets -360.) Meltokio: Dinner party- "I bet it's (Character)." : (Character) +180
- "I wonder who it is." : Kratos +180
Altamira: Mother has lost her four daughters- "Sure." : Colette +180
- "That sounds like a pain...." : Colette -60
(Note: You cannot complete this event if you choose the latter.) Altamira: Beach time- "Is it (Character)?" : (Character) +180
Mizuho: Chief Igaguri awakens- First party member spoken to while camping : (Character) +60
Mizuho: Get Sheena's "Successor" title- Get this title : Sheena +180
Izoold: Find Clara on the beach- "Save her." : Colette +60, Genis +60, Raine +120, Kratos +120, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea +60, Regal +60
- "Leave her alone." : Colette -60, Genis -60, Raine -120, Kratos -120, Sheena -60, Zelos -60, Presea -60, Regal -60
(Note: Kratos and Zelos are both affected even if they're not presently in the party.) Gaoracchia Forest: Pick up the Fafnir- "Just bear it for now, okay?" : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine -60, Sheena -60, Zelos -60, Presea +60, Regal -60
- "Should we stop collecting them?" : Genis +60, Raine +60, Sheena -60, Zelos +60, Presea +120
(Note: Kratos is unaffected even if he's in the party when you do this. Zelos IS affected even if he's NOT in the party when you do this...) Nova's Caravan: Discussion about the Monster List- "Yeah." : Raine +60
- "I dunno about that...." : Raine -60
Luin: Aifread offers a second contract (first time only)- "Okay." : Colette +60, Genis -60, Raine -60, Kratos +60, Sheena +60, Zelos +60, Presea -60, Regal -60
- "No way." : Genis +60, Raine +60, Sheena -60, Presea +60, Regal +60
(Note: If you choose the latter, leave Luin and return to get Aifread to reappear. Talking to him again gives you the dialogue choice again, but only the first time impacts affection.)
(Note: Only those characters who are in the party at the time are affected.) Heimdall: Night before Lloyd's duel with Kratos- Talk to party members : no change (for the record)
Meltokio: Get Regal's "God of The Kitchen" title- Get this title : Regal +180
Meltokio: Learn about Regal's master- "You bet." : Regal +180
- "...Ah, well..." : no change
(Note: You cannot later find Levin at the Hot Spring if you choose the latter.) Hot Spring: Talk to Regal's master- Talk to Levin : Regal +180
Ozette: Talk to Ralph- "Was it because your heart was strong?" : no change
- "Was it because you had a friend?" : no change
Martel Temple: Sheena hears Corrine's voice- Meet Verius : no change (just for the record)
Niflheim: Burning the book after defeating the final boss- "Don't burn the Soulfire" : no change
- "Burn the Soulfire" : no change
~~~ MISCELLANEOUS ~~~
(Note: All skit point numberings are based on the official BradyGames guide.)
(Note: Yes, I individually tested each and every one of the skit points.)
Skit Point #S-1: East of Iselia House of Salvation- "You did?" : Genis +60
- "Oh." : no change
Skit Point #S-2: South of Triet Ruins- "I'll leave her alone." : no change
- "What's wrong, Professor?" : Raine +60
Skit Point #S-3: South of Ossa Trail entrance- "You seem happy." : Colette +60
- "Wierdo." : no change
Skit Point #S-4: South of Izoold- "Yeah." : no change
- "What's foolish about it?!" : Kratos +60
Skit Point #S-5: West of Iselia House of Salvation, over mountains- "Oh, I see." : Presea +120
- "I doubt it." : no change
Skit Point #S-6: Island west of Palmacosta, north of Remote Island Human Ranch- "No." : no change
- "Sure." : Presea +120
Skit Point #S-7: Next to river west of Thoda Dock- "Yeah." : Sheena +60
- "Does it?" : no change
Skit Point #S-8: Island west of Palmacosta House of Salvation near All-Divide- "What?! Are you serious?" : Zelos +60
- "Sure, go ahead." : no change
Skit Point #S-9: North of Balacruf Mausoleum- "Never mind." : no change
- "I'll pay you when I get rich." : Zelos +60
Skit Point #S-10: East of Tower of Mana and Asgard Human Ranch, behind mountains- "I'll just leave her alone." : no change
- "What's wrong?" : Colette +60
Skit Point #S-11: North of Lake Umacy (just over mountains from #10)- "I see..." : Raine +60
- "Don't try to console me." : no change
Skit Point #S-12: South of Luin on the cliffs- "That's true." : Kratos +60
- "You're no fun." : no change
Skit Point #S-13: West of the Tower of Mana, on beach- "It's probably useless." : no change
- "You'll get better eventually." : Raine +60
Skit Point #S-14: Next to the bridge from Izoold to Hima- "Yeah." : no change
- "No." : Genis +60
Skit Point #S-15: Northeast of Hima on cliffs near Luin- "...Whatever." : no change
- "I don't dislike you." : Kratos +60
Skit Point #S-16: South of Hima near Guidepost Monument, west of Tower of Salvation- "Hehe, I know." : Colette +60
- "You think?" : no change
Skit Point #S-17: On sandy peninsula south of Sylvarant Tower of Salvation- "What're you doing?" : Genis +60
- "I'll leave him alone." : no change
Skit Point #S-18: Grassy peninsula south of Asgard, northeast of #17- "So what?" : no change
- "Yeah." : Sheena +60
Skit Point #S-19: South end of Katz' Village island, on beach- "I'll leave him alone." : no change
- "What's on your mind?" : Regal +180
Skit Point #S-20: Thoda Geyser island- "You really are mature." : Regal +180
- "You really are prude." : no change
Skit Point #T-1: East of Fooji Mountains and northeast of Temple of Darkness- "What's wrong, Professor?" : Raine +60
- "Don't know, don't wanna know." : no change
Skit Point #T-2: North of Gaoracchia Forest, in sandy desert area- "What's wrong?" : Genis +60
- "Stop daydreaming." : no change
Skit Point #T-3: Southwest of Tethe'alla Tower of Salvation- "Being the Chosen is tough, huh?" : Zelos +60
- "I see." : no change
Skit Point #T-4: Southwest of Mizuho- "Okay." : Sheena +60
- "What, to you?" : no change
Skit Point #T-5: East of Tower of Salvation near circle forest- "Okay." : no change
- "Wow!" : Colette +60
Skit Point #T-6: Small island northeast of Ozette- "Yeah." : Presea +120
- "Don't be too afraid, though." : no change
Skit Point #T-7: North of Temple of Lightning- "I see." : no change
- "Oh there." : Sheena +60
Skit Point #T-8: West of the Temple of Lightning- "Yeah. You're right." : Colette +60
- "Well, duh." : no change
Skit Point #T-9: Southwest of Flanoir- "...What're you doing?!" : Kratos +60
- "I'll leave him alone." : no change
Skit Point #T-10: Southeast of Flanoir, along narrow path- "Very unlike you to be brooding." : Zelos +60
- "Whatever." : no change
Skit Point #T-11: Southeast of Altamira island- "I don't care." : no change
- "Anything's fine." : Genis +60
Skit Point #T-12: Northeast of Altamira- "That's hard to imagine." : Regal +180
- "Hahahaha!" : no change
Skit Point #T-13: South of Ymir House of Guidance- "Well, it doesn't matter." : no change
- "Why?" : Zelos +60
Skit Point #T-14: Southwest of Latheon Gorge, on grass by mountains- "Huh? Are you crying?" : Sheena +60
- "Wow...Sheena's crying." : no change
Skit Point #T-15: South of Ymir Forest- "Fine then." : no change
- "Why do you try to act tough?" : Raine +60
Skit Point #T-16: Southwest of Toize Valley Mine- "Does it matter?" : no change
- "...What?!" : Presea +120
Skit Point #T-17: South of Toize Valley Mine, near pier- "Such a hassle." : no change
- "Yeah, you're right." : Regal +180
Skit Point #T-18: East of Toize Valley Mine, on far east side of continent- "Is something wrong?" : Presea +120
- "I'll leave her alone." : no change
Skit Point #T-19: East of Guidepost Monument northeast of Toize Valley Mine hidden in trees- "I doubt it." : no change
- "Maybe." : Colette +60
Skit Point #T-20: Islands in northwest Tethe'alla- "No, it's not." : Regal +180
- "Take a compliment for once!" : no change
Cooking: Lloyd cooks a dish using...- Beef : Lloyd +1
- Bell Pepper : Colette -1
- Cucumber : Regal -1
- Lemon : Colette +1, Raine +1
- Melon : Colette +1, Zelos +1, Regal -1
- Milk : Genis +1
- Mushroom : Raine -1
- Octopus : Zelos -1
- Rice : Sheena +1
- Snapper : Zelos +1
- Tofu : Regal +1
- Tomato : Lloyd -1, Kratos -1
- Tuna : Kratos +1, Zelos +1
- (Any other fruit not listed above) : Colette +1
(Note: All changes are capped at +/- 1 point per dish per character.)
(Note: A character has to be in the party to be affected. It doesn't matter if they're alive or dead, or if they are fighting in battles or sitting on the sidelines. They just have to be there in your menu screen.)
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sistaofpeace1

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Posts: 6728 Location: In my deep dark basement, plotting to kidnap my niece
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Ruin

Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Posts: 4996 Location: Idiots can believe in anything! So you can believe in yourself!
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Daaaaaaaaaamn, This is impressive.
I'm gonna be replaying Symphonia soon, so this'll be really helpful. _________________
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Batman

Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 8717 Location: In your imagination.
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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That's awesome. ;D I'll have to sometime use this guide and max out Zelos. xD
Not that I have a problem with him always being the first or second highest in affection. ;D _________________
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Force of Sound
Joined: 15 Aug 2010 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| ...Looking at this list, Colette has VERY few oppurtunities to lower her affection. She either doesn't get her affection lower, or she doesn't get a rather large subtraction. No wonder no one can shake her off. It's almost impossible. |
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Yuugame

Joined: 16 May 2010 Posts: 208 Location: San Jose, California
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Zelos gets so little affection from the skit points compared to Regal and Presea, wtf.
This is why I'm afraid to start affection from scratch or picking another character at Flanoir besides Zelos and Colette. Getting Zelos all the way up there was an ass. T_T _________________
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cutepresea

Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 1358 Location: Out in the boondocks, Florida
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:44 am Post subject: |
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*takes notes*
This'll come in handy if I ever try to get any character other than Presea or Colette up there in affection again.
Also, wtf at that +600 for Regal in the Candy subevent. Definitely taking advantage of that if I ever want Regal's higher. _________________
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Yume Hanabi

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Wow this is great. Thanks! _________________
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| Colour wrote: | BUT THERE'S SO MUCH WRONG
WITH DEVELOPING IT IN THE WOMB
AND HAVING A WATCH IN A FREAKING UTERUS |
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flyinelk212

Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 121 Location: Yoga Teleport?
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Force of Sound wrote: | | ...Looking at this list, Colette has VERY few oppurtunities to lower her affection. She either doesn't get her affection lower, or she doesn't get a rather large subtraction. No wonder no one can shake her off. It's almost impossible. |
Yeah. The game practically FORCES you to be with Colette. It's extremely annoying... ><
But it's more than possible to shake her off. I just finished a runthrough where Zelos, Genis, and Sheena were my top 3. It's basically a matter of going against Colette in EVERY MAJOR DECISION during the first half of the game, then once Tethe comes around, sticking with decisions that coincide with your desired character (and picking up only their world map skits along the way). _________________
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Yume Hanabi

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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Getting Colette out is not that hard. Getting rid of Raine when you're trying to raise Kratos can be pretty tedious though. Or raising both Kratos and Zelos. _________________
~Find my Tales of translations on LJ or on Tumblr~
| Colour wrote: | BUT THERE'S SO MUCH WRONG
WITH DEVELOPING IT IN THE WOMB
AND HAVING A WATCH IN A FREAKING UTERUS |
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Phaelin

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| Just realized I overlooked the Pink Pearl Ring. Going to have to go back a bit for that one. I think that's the only major event I'm entirely missing; beyond that, I just need to test various events with Sheena/Kratos in the party. Although it also occurred to me belatedly that getting some of the titles causes affection changes, and I carried over titles in the GRADE shop for my test play. So if there are titles that you can't get when you already have them (the one Regal gets from George for example), I wouldn't have been able to test them. I don't know when I'll get around to an entirely fresh play-through, so for now, I guess, just be aware that there is a possibility that there are additional title-related affection changes not listed here. |
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flyinelk212

Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 121 Location: Yoga Teleport?
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| Phaelin wrote: | | Just realized I overlooked the Pink Pearl Ring. Going to have to go back a bit for that one. I think that's the only major event I'm entirely missing; beyond that, I just need to test various events with Sheena/Kratos in the party. Although it also occurred to me belatedly that getting some of the titles causes affection changes, and I carried over titles in the GRADE shop for my test play. So if there are titles that you can't get when you already have them (the one Regal gets from George for example), I wouldn't have been able to test them. I don't know when I'll get around to an entirely fresh play-through, so for now, I guess, just be aware that there is a possibility that there are additional title-related affection changes not listed here. |
Who does the Pink Pearl quests affect? Mostly Sheena I'm guessing? _________________
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Soryu

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flyinelk212

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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Soryu wrote: | | Wasn't it Presea? ô.o I thought so, could be wrong though... |
I THINK that the guy who gives away his ex GF's ring gives it to Sheena initially. I think.
...I gotta rev up my Gamecube sometime soon... _________________
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Phaelin

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| flyinelk212 wrote: | | I THINK that the guy who gives away his ex GF's ring gives it to Sheena initially. I think. |
Yes, he gives it to Sheena.
I've got the ring now, but I have to play through to where you actually get the affection decision. This guide claims everyone is affected, but I won't know for certain till I get there myself. (Will also need to test whether you can even do this with Kratos in the party at all.) |
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