Hi-Ougis: Streamlined or situational?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could never activate Symphonia's Hi-Ougis, perhaps only Genis' once.

...and that's why I prefer streamlined! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estelle wrote:
CloudXSword wrote:
Conn wrote:
Two Mystic Artes: a weaker, streamlined one and a stronger, situational one.


This for 3D games

and lots of streamlined ones for 2D.

Like it normally is.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked ND3's system.

Critical HP will enable you to use your Hi-Ougi, but it reduces your HP to 1. It's also unusable afterwards, until you die and your HP was healed past 50%.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyrrad wrote:
I liked ND3's system.

Critical HP will enable you to use your Hi-Ougi, but it reduces your HP to 1. It's also unusable afterwards, until you die and your HP was healed past 50%.

Eh it seemed efficient as a last resort move but if there are any survivors, any hit can just kill you. I don't like the idea of having to run away or use an item right after using a Hi Ougi that reduces my HP to 1.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lyrrad wrote:
I liked ND3's system.

Critical HP will enable you to use your Hi-Ougi, but it reduces your HP to 1. It's also unusable afterwards, until you die and your HP was healed past 50%.

So not only does it only work as a last resort, but it actually punishes you for using it?

I don't see that as good at all :(
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like a hybrid between both personally, i love the look of cut-ins, that's basically the only reason i like MA's, its the cut-ins XD So I like my MA's frequent, just not as spammy as TotA.

I guess i like streamlined more, I like the way that i think it was Estelle described a new one, with the downgraded Vesperia bar for each character that also slightly takes after ToD: DC, that sounded really nice.

Situational were always really hard for me pull off, i pulled off maybe 2 in my entire playthrough of Symphonia, counting summons maybe 14, because i summoned all the spirits once.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conn wrote:
Lyrrad wrote:
I liked ND3's system.

Critical HP will enable you to use your Hi-Ougi, but it reduces your HP to 1. It's also unusable afterwards, until you die and your HP was healed past 50%.

So not only does it only work as a last resort, but it actually punishes you for using it?

I don't see that as good at all Sad


are you saying aurora wall + aurora sword is not good...?

blasphemy!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked Abyss's... 1 standard and 1+ special.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the situational people here just like subjecting themselves to grief and punishment or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kajitani-Eizan wrote:
are you saying aurora wall + aurora sword is not good...?

I'm not talking about the mystic artes, just the system used.

Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
Do the situational people here just like subjecting themselves to grief and punishment or something?

Pressing Cross + Square + Circle when your health is in the red isn't really "grief and punishment".
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emils was annoyingly repetetive, especially when being under levelled forced me to use it five times in most boss fights and 1 or 2 in most random encounters.
I prefer situational.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would prefer both systems, 1 streamlined and 1 situational. It's a good balance that way.

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emils was annoyingly repetetive, especially when being under levelled forced me to use it five times in most boss fights and 1 or 2 in most random encounters.


If you think Emil's was annoying and repetitive, trying doing no Hi-ougis against Streigau from Tales of Hearts on Unknown. That is pure repetition when you have to continuously spam Combination Blasters just to damage the guy.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah uh striegau is just ridiculous. you literally CAN'T combo him in either of his boss fights unless you use hiougis. iirc ryuhiroshi has a video where he counts how many times he used shouou jin'eizan against unknown possessed striegau, and it was above 50.

i did hard mode against him and i'm pretty sure i used at least 8 -- i would have used more, but i kept missing the timing and/or needed my CG gauge to cast resurrection or nurse or something.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filliam H. Muffman wrote:
Do the situational people here just like subjecting themselves to grief and punishment or something?

I dare you to make a legitimate attempt to understand both sides of the argument.
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