SHENANIGANS!

[Atlas]

I'm sorry about this I really am. You guys have really stepped your game up these past few months and addressed a lot of the issues I used to have but I hate to say this is ridiculous.

He doesn't deserve a temp ban he deserves a full ban. Not only for his blatant trolling these past few days but because he's been trolling for months. Look back during the election period all his post and threads where flame baiting and nearly all of his posts are made solely to enrage people. His post pretty much prove that he's only here to annoy and piss people off which he has done. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who feels this way either. I usually don't mind trolls but this is ridiculous. I understand a system is in place but if a user such as his self is around who is only around solely to annoy other users why would you even bother keeping a system in place for that user? I'm sorry if I sound annoying, give me points for back seat modding I really don't care at this point but its absolutely ridiculous that a user who OBVIOUSLY is only here to annoy people with his predictable bull**** is given a temporary ban.

Please ban him for nobody has to deal with his crap again.

[Ryke]

We temp-ban before we ban. I can't say I wouldn't like to see him just banned, but yeah, that's how it works unless he does something bad enough for him to be banned entirely in one shot.

We have no rule against having horrible opinions or being a very generally horrible person. For the most part he's avoided a lot of minor offenses (admittedly, we don't watch out for minor offenses as much as we should, and that might have made the difference) and we generally don't let people go from never-banned to completely-banned in one shot.

I can't say we're definitely just temp-banning him, but I'm pretty sure it'll stay that way for now. He might not last very long from there, though.
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[CovertSushi]

Well he's made a few (arguably) legitimate topics about his anime website and his coloring, though the threads concerning his graphic header turned out pretty sadly. He essentially ignored most of the feedback he got.

That said, he posted porn. I don't care if it was MSpaint, he posted a depiction of a sexual act. Not even close to something that was well hidden or arguable like the **** Charlie's pulled before. It was supposed to be Michael Jackson having sex with a child; there is no defense for that.
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[Lunar Eclipse]

This is hardly backseat modding, and you're certainly free to express your opinion, so don't worry about it.

However, I have to say that I disagree. Sure, a lot of people take issue with him, but he hasn't done anything so horrific that it warrants unhinging him from the normal process. The only things that can push you over that edge are spamming pornographic imagery, account suiciding, or issuing threats of bodily harm. He's done none of that, and it's strange that you're pointing to this specific instance as an outrage when we've had issues with other people doing the exact same thing in the past (i.e. when CrimsonCalamity took pleasure in the death of some suspected rapist). At that point, everyone suggested that we add points to CC's database entry, which we did. I can't fathom why people think this case is especially different unless they're particularly offended because of the person who Shikon insulted, but in all fairness, that's not grounds for special exception.

I can agree that perhaps he would be banned already had we been stricter in the past and put him under temp ban previously, but the fact remains that we didn't, and as such, he's entitled to his temporary ban under this system.

[CovertSushi]

Well, it's not so strange to expect people to demand a tabulation when a major offense comes about; most of the time he's like a wasp flying around, which is admittedly annoying but no threat. It's not until someone is bitten/stung that action is taken to exterminate them.

You can give me a prize for that analogy if you'd like.
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[Lunar Eclipse]

And we're certainly not opposed to reevaluating his points, as we've shown with the temporary ban. I just don't see any past precedent that suggests we should forgo the temporary ban. If anything, past precedent suggests that we shouldn't.
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[CovertSushi]

I don't see how you assume you shouldn't have administered the temp ban. Half his history has been trolling, as Atlas said. And this time he just happened to take it much too far.
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[Lunar Eclipse]

... I didn't say that. I said that past precedent suggests that we should only temp, not perma.
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[CovertSushi]

... Oh. I'm a good reader.
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[Shadowfox]

Honestly I was rather surprised we hadn't been temped him before unfortunately that's how it goes as dictated by the rules. That said he's on even thinner ice on then he was before because his next troll offense, hell the temp may set him off whose to say, will...should result in him being completely banned.
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[ZankuuTenshouken]

Yep. I hope he's banned too.

Wait, can the staff, if need be, IP ban him? He could easily circumvent his permaban by making a new account under a different email address.
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[Fades]

I'm sure that Lunar at the very least has the ability to IP ban if needed, but that's...not always the best way to do things. IP bans are problematic, considering more than one person may share the same IP. You IP ban one guy, and another member could get banned as well.

[Drake]

Except we pretty much all know the only person close to Shikon who uses the forum is Slider. Oh no he won't be able to browse the forums at his house.

Besides. Internet cafe? Dynamic IP address? Hell, Ciel got herself banned on purpose, asked for an IP ban and then still came back after each ban until the mods decided to screw it.
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[Fades]

...and that's exactly why IP bans don't work. >_>


Although there could be other people besides Slider and Shikon who use the forums in that area. Just sayin'.

[Shadowfox]