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Wasn't the skill > spell > cancel > skill glitch fixed??? Then how come they can manage to do it here???
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Veghesther
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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no from what I heard from gamefaqs.com spell canceling is still in game.
But you cast certain spells of Tear's to do this. Example her enhance spell practically makes all spells have no casting time.
The wikipedia site has a tales of the abyss walkthrough etc but its in japanese only text (but does mention spell canceling.)
As listed at gamefaqs.com
Tear
Spell Enhance (Lv. 37)
TP 18 || Reduces casting time for target
FOF Change (Wind)
Witchcraft || Reduces casting time for all
characters within area of effect
AD skills.
Speed Spell (Magic Attack +60
All magic capable characters have reduced casting time.
- Jade, Anise, Tear, Natalia
Turnless (Physical Attack 60+, Agility 60+)
Combonation techs (Ougi) can be linked back to Techs (Tokugi)
Canceller (Physical Attack 80+, Agility 80+)
Able to link 2 Techs (Tokugi).
Spell Keep (Magical Defence 30+, Magical Attack 30+)
When casting is interrupted, if the same spell is cast again
casting time resumes from whence it was interrupted.
- Jade, Tear, Anise, Natalia
Rhythm (Magical Attack 20+, Agility 20+)
Repeatedly hit (Attack) during spell casting to reduce casting time.
- Jade, Tear, Anise, Natalia
abuse all of above for easy spell/tech canceling. |
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Majutsuko
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Vegh, reducing casting time for spells has nothing to do with spell-cancelling >_> Are you sure you know what it is he's talking about?
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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Majutsuko, just ignore him. He does this on GameFAQs too - posts stuff straight rom the FAQs and calls it "helping." He doesn't have the game and doesn't know a damn thing aside from how to cut-and-paste.
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Ukete Miyo
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We already lost the gamefaqs board because the mods refused to take any actions (and there were actions to take), and now it looks like this place is going downhill as well.
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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I just hope the mods catch him before it's too late..............
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Shadow Master T
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Kyo316 wrote: | | I just hope the mods catch him before it's too late.............. |
Yeah, people's sanity is in stake...! I know I lost mine because of him... *cries* |
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Shinryu
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Blue Lightning wrote: | | Wasn't the skill > spell > cancel > skill glitch fixed??? Then how come they can manage to do it here??? |
The only time I recall them taking out spell cancelling was when they made the PlayStation 2 version of Tales of Symphonia. Otherwise, it always seems to be in a Tales game if its battle system allows for it...
| Ukete Miyo wrote: | | We already lost the gamefaqs board because the mods refused to take any actions (and there were actions to take), and now it looks like this place is going downhill as well. |
There hasn't been any action to take here. Sure, Veghesther often posts inaccurate information under the guise of help. Sure, I've wanted a ban from the moment I saw that Veghesther joined. However, he has yet to violate the rules in such a way that warrants a ban, and unless there is such an offense, he will not be banned...
| Shadow Master T wrote: | | Kyo316 wrote: | | I just hope the mods catch him before it's too late.............. |
Yeah, people's sanity is in stake...! I know I lost mine because of him... *cries* |
There hasn't been anything to catch. Also, all this off-topic discussion of Veghesther only makes the problem worse. Rather than go off-topic, just ignore his posts or discuss the matter in private. A post to correct any misinformation given is one thing, but derailing the topic because of it only makes things worse...
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Condoleeza
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If he keeps doing what he's doing, wouldn't he be guilty of this charge:
| Lord Fawkes Garde wrote: |
12) Trolling: Definition:
| Wikipedia wrote: | | An internet troll is a person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses, or a message sent by such a person. The term derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" and ultimately from trolling for fish. The term is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied to those who are ignorant of etiquette. |
Please avoid trolling.
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He's perfectly aware of the fact that he annoys people by spreading his false information and other mumbo jumbo.
By continuing with it he is deliberately trolling. |
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VrtraHex
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Condoleeza wrote: | If he keeps doing what he's doing, wouldn't he be guilty of this charge:
| Lord Fawkes Garde wrote: |
12) Trolling: Definition:
| Wikipedia wrote: | | An internet troll is a person who sends duplicitous messages to get angry responses, or a message sent by such a person. The term derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" and ultimately from trolling for fish. The term is frequently abused to slander opponents in heated debates and is frequently misapplied to those who are ignorant of etiquette. |
Please avoid trolling.
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He's perfectly aware of the fact that he annoys people by spreading his false information and other mumbo jumbo.
By continuing with it he is deliberately trolling. |
I doubt he's sitting at his computer with a evil smirk on his face thinking "HA! Take that!" and posting stuff just to see our reaction and get pissed at him. I don't think he does it maliciously.
On a side note about spell's, I was fighting Synch and he was casting a spell. I did a combo on him and he defended right before he said the spells name. As I ran away, right after the spell finished, he says "Ground Dasher" (is that the correct name?) since he didn't say it before and next thing I know there's another Ground Dasher thrown at me. It only happened to me once, but I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on why this happened? |
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Cyllya
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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I've been meaning to say this for a while...
Maybe I've just gotten used to him, but you guys that are following Vegh around flaming him are way more annoying than he is. And you're also breaking the rules more objectively than he is. Stop your insulting off-topic griping.
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Impotent Symptom
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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It's Grand Dasher, but same difference.
Mabye he has spell keep?
To Cyllya, Shinryu:
Fair enough, sorry 'bout that.
Did you two get my PM, by the way?
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Veghesther
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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even if the boss's didn't have spell keep sometimes the boss's spells like ground dasher practically doesn't have a charge up time.
Meaning no matter how many times you hit the boss it will still manage to cast a spell (kind of like how canceling the elemental fiends in the final dungeon of Destiny II/Eternia is impossible.)
Only because they cast spells so fast its practically impossible to cancel them for the entire battle.
So just maybe some of the boss fights in this game are similar (reguardless of the games difficulty setting.) |
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VrtraHex
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Veghesther wrote: | even if the boss's didn't have spell keep sometimes the boss's spells like ground dasher practically doesn't have a charge up time.
Meaning no matter how many times you hit the boss it will still manage to cast a spell (kind of like how canceling the elemental fiends in the final dungeon of Destiny II/Eternia is impossible.)
Only because they cast spells so fast its practically impossible to cancel them for the entire battle.
So just maybe some of the boss fights in this game are similar (reguardless of the games difficulty setting.) |
No, thats not quiet what I mean. I'm talking about casting a spell and then casting another spell without any charge up. When Synch casts a spell, he keeps his arm extended until the spell is done. I'm talking about him never even retracting his arm. One spell is silent while the other is shouted out.
Edit: It may just be a glitch, but if I can harness it...needless to say it will kickass. |
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Veghesther
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| they maybe he has a cancelor type effect (kind of how like max/fog in destiny II/Eternia can chain cast his skills without a charge up time aftter the 1st skill is triggered.) |
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